Oh yeah,,,,,I did my grocery shopping yesterday at Price Chopper on Altamont Ave.....my grocery bill has gone up 1/3 in about 4-6 weeks.....when loading our groceries and leaving a wild turkey was in the parking lot....I was about ready to jump on the dam thing, kill it and bring it home.....soon, soon
very very soon.......wait for it....wait for it.............................................................................................

Where I am now, it's open season for doe.  There is no limit (and no gun control).  It's simply AMAZING how many people have humongous amounts of venison in their freezer - and eat it regularly.

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Where I am now, it's open season for doe.  There is no limit (and no gun control).  It's simply AMAZING how many people have humongous amounts of venison in their freezer - and eat it regularly.

I used to myself....must get back to it....

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Mixing ethanol with gas a waste of good corn

    It’s a disservice to make drivers use ethanol for their cars [Jan. 22 Gazette]. Why add something to gas that gives you fewer miles per gallon and that may cause trouble with your engine and catalytic converter? It doesn’t make any sense.
Drivers should have a choice to be able to buy gas without ethanol to get better miles per gallon and save their engines.
We are making smaller cars and hybrids that use a lot less gas. Save the corn for food.

SID GORDON
Saratoga Springs

http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00907&AppName=1

If the government stopped subsidizing the production of ethanol then there wouldn't be as much money to pay off their politically connected friends who make the ethanol.

Ethanol is the biggest scam going. It STILL consumes more energy to produce than it saves in reduction of fossil fuel use.

My vehicles consistently get 10% MPG LESS when using e10.. I know this because I fill up at with non-ethanol gas occasionally to compare. So... if I have to put 10% more fuel in my car to go the same distance, am I really using less fossil fuels?

Ethanol is in gas for one reason.. too make a few companies a lot of money.

Even if they could eliminate some of the problems with ethanol  ( lower gas mileage - which I have noticed too when I use it) ---- it seems to me that using corn to produce ethanol is also causing food prices to go up.
From what I have read and heard their are other non food plants from which to get ethanol.  

Also, I have never been a fan of the huge subsidies paid to corporate farms and agribusiness.  They have tended to hurt the family farms and smaller operations.   They have also put control of our food production in the hands of fewer and fewer persons and corporations.  All with bad consequences.

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Ethanol is the biggest scam going. It STILL consumes more energy to produce than it saves in reduction of fossil fuel use.

My vehicles consistently get 10% MPG LESS when using e10.. I know this because I fill up at with non-ethanol gas occasionally to compare. So... if I have to put 10% more fuel in my car to go the same distance, am I really using less fossil fuels?

Ethanol is in gas for one reason.. too make a few companies a lot of money.

100000000000000000000000000000000 % right on. Hang around small engine repair shops across the land, marinas, classic car shops, ATV dealers all over- you will find out just how much this screw job, hoisted on us by the criminal (political) class is costing Americans. Of course "URBAN" voters don't mind a bit.

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Oh yeah,,,,,I did my grocery shopping yesterday at Price Chopper on Altamont Ave.....my grocery bill has gone up 1/3 in about 4-6 weeks.....when loading our groceries and leaving a wild turkey was in the parking lot....I was about ready to jump on the dam thing, kill it and bring it home.....soon, soon
very very soon.......wait for it....wait for it.............................................................................................

1/3rd, is no joke.  I know alot of people who avoid Price Chopper whenever possible, and the main reason seems to be their alliance with
Sunoco, which is pretty much generic gasoline by the way.
I know people that work there, and I service their computers.

No matter what, that gasoline is going to be paid for, at full price, because the gas station doesn't get to claim to their vendors that they're
just being altruistic.
It's not the "Schooner Tuna" pitch from "Mister Mom".

You're paying for that gas, even if you don't OWN a car, and the transaction fees between the two companies are horrendous,, so you're actually paying MORE.

Neither Price Chopper, or Sunoco are in the business of losing money.

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1/3rd, is no joke.  I know alot of people who avoid Price Chopper whenever possible, and the main reason seems to be their alliance with
Sunoco, which is pretty much generic gasoline by the way.
I know people that work there, and I service their computers.

No matter what, that gasoline is going to be paid for, at full price, because the gas station doesn't get to claim to their vendors that they're
just being altruistic.
It's not the "Schooner Tuna" pitch from "Mister Mom".

You're paying for that gas, even if you don't OWN a car, and the transaction fees between the two companies are horrendous,, so you're actually paying MORE.

Neither Price Chopper, or Sunoco are in the business of losing money.

I have noticed since Sunoco began the promotion with Price Chopper that the regular price of their gas is at least 5 to 10 cents more expensive than their competitors' prices.   The only way it is really worth particpating in the promotion is if one is buying a bunch of stuff from Price Chopper anyway and can get 50 cents or a dollar of the price of gas.

Another thing that irks me about Price Chopper is having to have an advantage card to get the sale prices.  You know that they are selling your buying information to others.    And I am not crazy about those violations of privacy.

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS....change your routine.....move around alot...you know, one week here, one week there.......dont let the bead be on you
for too long.....we ARE the wild turkeys.......and they hunt us for our $$.......I dont think they are working hard enough....what say you?

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ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS....change your routine.....move around alot...you know, one week here, one week there.......dont let the bead be on you
for too long.....we ARE the wild turkeys.......and they hunt us for our $$.......I dont think they are working hard enough....what say you?

mmmm...  I think you must have been enjoying some "herb" before you posted.  

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EPA’s ethanol expansion only the latest bad call

    In the past month the Gazette has printed several articles and an editorial about ethanol and how the Environmental Protection Agency is raising the amount allowed in our gasoline from 10 percent to 15 percent. To say that ethanol is bad for New York and New Yorkers is an understatement.
    The numerous articles and editorial point out that the only winners are the Midwest corn growers, as ethanol requires large amounts of natural gas and diesel to produce; burns hotter, damaging engines in cars, small equipment and boats; reduces gas mileage; depletes farm soil; and is even making our food cost more.
    Nothing but negatives and less money in our wallets — as if we in New York don’t have enough financial drain. Why is the government forcing this on us and why aren’t Sens. Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand speaking up to keep New Yorkers from this added expense?
    Numerous phone calls to both senators’ offices have gotten the weak response, “We’ll pass the word on to the senator.” Maybe if they paid for their own food and gas, they might care a bit more. Schumer, especially, who loves daily media attention is particularly disappointing as he has TV time for banning smokeless cigarettes and bath salts snorted by a few morons but has nothing to say about ethanol, which costs millions of us more money.
    As for the EPA, another example of how clueless they are is the Hudson PCB dredging project — as anyone who has ever been in water at a beach knows when you disturb sand it makes a silty cloud. Did they really think they could contain the silt as they scooped up the bottom of the river with those giant clamshell dredges? A 10-year-old is smarter than that.
    Let’s put some pressure on our senators to get the EPA to back off, starting with mandatory ethanol consumption.

    MARC SMALKIN
    Schenectady

http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r00706&AppName=1

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mmmm...  I think you must have been enjoying some "herb" before you posted.  

You just accused someone of breaking the law. THAT is a libel. Do you wish to back off that statement?

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You just accused someone of breaking the law. THAT is a libel. Do you wish to back off that statement?

Depends on what "herb" he or she was enjoying ... only a few are illegal substances ... most are perfectly legal.