House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that when the health care bill passed, President Obama told her that he was happier than when he was elected President.
Pelosi also predicted the Supreme Court would ultimately uphold the law on a 6-3 vote.
Pelosi sucks at predicting... she also predicted the Dems would hold the house in 2010
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
When they show up at a hospital bleeding from a car wreck... the rest of us pay their bills.
Then we need universal food and water insurance water insurance also...When people choose to spend their money on a non-necessity item like cable tv, and then go to the soup kitchen or reginal food bank for their necessities like food for free, WE ARE PAYING FOR THAT PERSONS FOOD, SINCE IT IS FIGURED INTO EVERY ITEM AT THE GROCERY STORE.
The hard working American is the group who will benefit most from HCR. .
Well isn't it nice you know what is best for other Americans, obviously most Americans are to dumb to make their own choices in life right Box
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Well isn't it nice you know what is best for other Americans, obviously most Americans are to dumb to make their own choices in life right Box
The poorest Americans live in Mostly Red states. They have the lowest income, worst health and highest number of uninsured... and if they keep voting for Republicans... they deserve it.
The rest of America, from Ike, Kennedy, Johnson, Ford, Carter, Daddy Bush and Clinton support Health Care Reform. Of modern presidents, only Reagan, and Baby Bush oppose it.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Re March 28 AP article, “Conservative justices question health care law”: If it turns out that mandatory health coverage is unconstitutional, is it also unconstitutional to require the general population to indirectly pay for health coverage for those who cannot afford it? Just wondering.
Where do all the welfare recipients who mooch off the taxpayers live?
One of thebiggest welfare recipients who mooch off the taxpayers lives just down the road. 1 River Road, Schdy, NY 12345. The address of the General Electric Company.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
One of thebiggest welfare recipients who mooch off the taxpayers lives just down the road. 1 River Road, Schdy, NY 12345. The address of the General Electric Company.
Yes, they do, and they have a second address, it's channel 13 on your nearest television with bunny ears or Time Warner Cable attached.
Let's just allow the government to mandate what toilet paper you purchase. because if it's cheap toilet paper you may get hemerrhoids that I don't want to pay for.
HEALTH INSURANCE IS VERY VERY VERY INDIVIDUAL....CHOICES CHOICES CHOICES.......car/home insurance have set values on the structures.... apples and oranges folks....apples and oranges
the only way to control the cost of health insurance via public commune is to make sure all involved eat the same pink goo and have equal exposure and make same choices......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Car ownership isn’t compulsory, health insurance would be
Some compare the Obamacare mandate to car insurance, inaccurately [April 3 Gazette]. Car insurance is only required if you choose to purchase a car and use it on public roads. Imagine if government mandated that you buy a Chevy Volt, regardless of whether you wanted one or not. They then threaten to fine and imprison you if you don’t, even though you’ve taken no criminal action. That is the problem with Obamacare; it criminalizes merely existing in America without buying a governmentapproved, commercial product: health insurance. The Constitution grants the federal government the power to regulate commerce, not compel it. You have to enter into commerce voluntarily. And since all powers not delegated to the federal government remain in the hands of the states and people, it was never in Congress’ power to decide for us what we must and must not purchase. Obama’s decision to do so anyway is tyrannical. Consider also the ramifications of this precedent. If they can force us to buy health care, what’s next? Where we live, what we eat, where we work, what we chose to do for fun? On what freedom will the next mandate fall? Government inevitably seeks to amass power; history has conclusively demonstrated this. And it invariably attracts the type of people who crave power over others. Our Founders knew this, and put so many inflexible limits on government power to try and mitigate this reality. But if the Obamacare mandate is upheld, it will all have been for nothing, because the government will possess all the means it will ever need to put the American people in chains.
We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people,
without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a Dumbo President who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese,
and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What could possibly go wrong?'
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Employers could save billions by dropping workers from health plans, report shows By Jim Angle
Published May 01, 2012
FoxNews.com
A new survey of Fortune 100 companies finds that the health care overhaul, contrary to the claims of its authors, created some perverse incentives for employers to drop workers from company insurance plans.
Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee surveyed the top 100 companies about how much they spent on health care -- a total of 71, covering 5.9 million employees, responded. The results suggested it would be far more attractive for companies to drop workers from those plans than keep them.
Even after paying a penalty of $2,000 per employee, the companies stand to save $28.6 billion in 2014 alone by shifting employees to health insurance exchanges governed by strict federal standards. The companies stand to save more than $422 billion over the first 10 years of the law by doing this.
"The penalties for the employers who drop coverage are very low, and the subsidies for the workers in the exchanges are very high," said James Capretta, with the Ethics and Public Policy Center.
If the companies indeed take this step, the move would fly in the face of pledges by the law's backers, including President Obama, that U.S. workers would not lose their employer-provided health plans.
Shifting over to the insurance exchanges, while potentially a hassle for employees who had that decision mostly taken care of at their jobs, might not necessarily be a bad thing.
The new exchanges would offer several choices of plans, and workers would get generous federal subsidies -- which only phase out at about $88,000 income.
The exchanges could be attractive to both employers and workers. That is especially true of small employers. Many companies would not want to be the first to drop coverage, but if a competitor did, others might feel compelled to follow suit, causing a snowball effect.
No one knows how many companies could drop insurance and shift workers to the exchanges.
But the attraction is apparent -- they could pay the fine, save several thousand dollars per worker and offer to share part of that savings in higher wages.
The higher cost of subsidies, though, would fall on the taxpayers.
Yet some analysts argue large companies would be reluctant to drop coverage.
"I think competition for labor is still intense and to recruit and retain a talented work force you've got to provide generous benefits," said Andrew Webber, president of the National Business Coalition on Health.
But Neil Trautwein, vice president of the National Retail Federation, said that "in a pure dollars and cents standpoint, it could not be more clear -- you save a lot of money, hundreds of millions of dollars for some of these companies, by no longer providing coverage."
In the first two years after “Obamacare” was signed, Medicare reforms in the law saved seniors a total of $3.4 billion in prescription drug costs by bridging a coverage gap, according to official figures. Over 220,000 beneficiaries have saved an average of $837 in the first three months of 2012, the Medicare agency said Monday. That’s on top of $3.2 billion in savings enjoyed by some 5.1 million seniors in 2010 and 2011 thanks to the Affordable Care Act,
(Arkansas Times)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The Washington Times Online Edition FDA may let patients buy drugs without prescriptions Move would increase patients’ out-of-pocket costs
By Paige Winfield Cunningham
The Washington Times
Sunday, April 29, 2012
In a move that could help the government trim its burgeoning health care costs, the Food and Drug Administration may soon permit Americans to obtain some drugs used to treat conditions such as high blood pressure and diabetes without obtaining a prescription.
The FDA says over-the-counter distribution would let patients get drugs for many common conditions without the time and expense of visiting a doctor, but medical providers call the change medically unsound and note that it also may mean that insurance no longer will pay for the drugs.
“The problem is medicine is just not that simple,” said Dr. Matthew Mintz, an internist at George Washington University Hospital. “You can’t just follow rules and weigh all the pros and cons. It needs to be individualized.”
Under the changes that the agency is considering, patients could diagnose their ailments by answering questions online or at a pharmacy kiosk in order to buy current prescription-only drugs for conditions such as high cholesterol, certain infections, migraine headaches, asthma or allergies.
By removing the prescription requirement from popular drugs, the Obama administration could ease financial pressures on the overburdened Medicare system by paying for fewer doctor visits and possibly opening the door to make seniors pay a larger share of the cost of their medications.
The change could have mixed results for non-Medicare patients. Although they may not have to visit a doctor as often, they could have to dish out more money for medications because most insurance companies don’t cover over-the-counter drugs. “We would expect that out-of-pocket costs for insured individuals, including those covered by Medicare, would be increased for drugs that are switched from prescription to OTC status,” said Dr. Sandra Adamson Fryhofer, who testified last month on behalf of the American Medical Association in an FDA-held public hearing.
Pharmacists and doctors have lined up on opposite sides of the issue. Often trying to combat a public perception that downplays their medical training, pharmacists embrace the notion that they should be able to dole out medication for patients’ chronic conditions without making them go through a doctor.
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