It will be cheaper for the businesses to pay the excise tax than to pay for private health care for their employees. Leaving only the government option. But then again....wasn't that the goal of this administration......a one payer system?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Let government, not greedy companies, control health care
A majority of the American people recognize that our health care system is broken, and that many millions of American citizens go without proper care because they cannot afford health insurance. A majority of Americans, over 55 percent, also agree that a public option is needed to break the stranglehold of the large insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and Wall Street (stockholders demand high rates of return on investments, pushing insurance companies to jettison unprofi table, i.e., sick, people from their rolls) on our health care. We should not fear a government-sponsored system. I fear the corporate-controlled system we struggle with right now. President Obama campaigned on the promise of creating a just and universal health care system, and I am terribly disappointed that he and Congress are still refusing to step up and push for real health care for Americans. We should have a single-payer system. But short of that, a public insurance option with no “triggers” or state opt-outs is the next, necessary step.
Americans, for the most part, do not believe our government, and in particular the Democrats, can run a health care plan. Watching the Oct. 25 “60 Minutes” should have been an eye-opener for anyone who has doubts. We are burdened by $60 billion in Medicare fraud. The theft of Medicare funds is unconscionable. Let's run some numbers: Assume a person pays $600 a month for a health plan; that comes out to $7,200 per year. One million dollars would pay for 139 people to have health care for an entire year. Since there are 1,000 millions in a billion, $1 billion would pay for 139,000 people to have health care. Now, because 60 is the number of billions stolen, we can conclude that 8,340,000 could have health care if Obama and his liberal pals simply stopped the blatant theft of money. Couple that with the Republican push on tort reform that some estimate would save $500 billion, and we could free up enough money to insure 70 million people. That would be more than enough to cover all of the illegal aliens that we will eventually be required to pay for. [Attorney General] Eric Holder had the audacity to appear incredulous over the idea that people would ever rip off such a noble program. This is the fantasy world that liberals exist in. Medicare has over $400 billion budgeted for 2009. If Obama’s health plan comes in at twice that cost (their estimate), then we can expect $100 billion or more to be lost through fraud. Start looking at other plans the Democrats have burdened us with and we could be looking at $1 trillion a year in theft. Yet time and time again, these radicals demand more and more money through taxes and fees. These numbers are mind-boggling, but because some Americans can’t comprehend them or simply don’t care, we are on the verge of indebtedness to our children that can never be overcome.
Howard if you really want a single payer system move to Canada or England and your poll numbers are way off as the poll you chose to quote was a poll done that polled many more Dems than the rest of the parties. Many other polls show that 57 percent of the population are opposed to government run health-care. Yes we all believe that there must be health-care reform but why has the Dem controlled congress refused to include tort reform or allow people to access health-care insurance from other states?
The dems have to pass some kind of health care to save face. There should be 'none at all', but if one passes, I think it will be a very water downed version.
It still amazes me how they just don't open state lines and let the private sector compete. Competition ALWAYS lowers prices. These people need to go back to school and take an economics class. They are killin' us!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
We are all avoiding the elephant in the room......it's not healthcare reform----it's health insurance reform let's make ALL THE POLITICOS union/dems/reps etc use the proper language......the government doesn't do healthcare they do government health insurance
the politicos wont discuss heath insurance,,,why????? let's ask them why the proper wording hasn't been used either by the unions/lobbyists/major parties?????
HELLO???? time to cough it up you gumbas.......who is in your pockets/voting booths??????
SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL.....
PS....dont forget about the drug commercials/companies
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Bachmann's New Effort To Rally Against Congress -- And Do It Inside The Buildings -- Endorsed By GOP Leadership Eric Kleefeld | November 2, 2009, 12:54PM
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), who is best known for making inflammatory calls for revolution against President Obama, now has the full backing of the GOP leadership in her latest push to protest against the "tyranny" of the Obama administration.
As Greg Sargent reported, the spokesmen for both House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) and Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) supported Bachmann's call for a rally this Thursday in Washington against the Democrats' health care proposals, and her rallying cry: "If you believe in liberty, and if you're rejecting tyranny, this is it."
But what about the other part of Bachmann's initiative. She told Sean Hannity: "I'd love to have every one of your viewers to join me so we can go up and down through the halls, find members of Congress, look at the whites of their eyes and say, 'Don't take away my healthcare.'"
Does the GOP think having citizens streaming into the Congressional buildings amounts to harassment and disruption of Congress, or is it a legitimate exercise of the right to petition the government?
Boehner spokesman Michael Steel (not to be confused with the RNC chairman) told us: "It is every American's right to visit the Capitol and share their views with Members of Congress."
Cantor spokesman Brad Dayspring told us: "The American people know that Speaker Pelosi's overhaul is the wrong answer to a national problem and have a right to express their opinion, especially on such a personal issue."
REVIEW & OUTLOOK NOVEMBER 1, 2009, 11:23 P.M. ET The Worst Bill Ever
Epic new spending and taxes, pricier insurance, rationed care, dishonest accounting: The Pelosi health bill has it all. Speaker Nancy Pelosi has reportedly told fellow Democrats that she's prepared to lose seats in 2010 if that's what it takes to pass ObamaCare, and little wonder. The health bill she unwrapped last Thursday, which President Obama hailed as a "critical milestone," may well be the worst piece of post-New Deal legislation ever introduced.
In a rational political world, this 1,990-page runaway train would have been derailed months ago. With spending and debt already at record peacetime levels, the bill creates a new and probably unrepealable middle-class entitlement that is designed to expand over time. Taxes will need to rise precipitously, even as ObamaCare so dramatically expands government control of health care that eventually all medicine will be rationed via politics.
Yet at this point, Democrats have dumped any pretense of genuine bipartisan "reform" and moved into the realm of pure power politics as they race against the unpopularity of their own agenda. The goal is to ram through whatever income-redistribution scheme they can claim to be "universal coverage." The result will be destructive on every level—for the health-care system, for the country's fiscal condition, and ultimately for American freedom and prosperity.
•The spending surge. The Congressional Budget Office figures the House program will cost $1.055 trillion over a decade, which while far above the $829 billion net cost that Mrs. Pelosi fed to credulous reporters is still a low-ball estimate. Most of the money goes into government-run "exchanges" where people earning between 150% and 400% of the poverty level—that is, up to about $96,000 for a family of four in 2016—could buy coverage at heavily subsidized rates, tied to income. The government would pay for 93% of insurance costs for a family making $42,000, 72% for another making $78,000, and so forth.
At least at first, these benefits would be offered only to those whose employers don't provide insurance or work for small businesses with 100 or fewer workers. The taxpayer costs would be far higher if not for this "firewall"—which is sure to cave in when people see the deal their neighbors are getting on "free" health care. Mrs. Pelosi knows this, like everyone else in Washington.
Even so, the House disguises hundreds of billions of dollars in additional costs with budget gimmicks. It "pays for" about six years of program with a decade of revenue, with the heaviest costs concentrated in the second five years. The House also pretends Medicare payments to doctors will be cut by 21.5% next year and deeper after that, "saving" about $250 billion. ObamaCare will be lucky to cost under $2 trillion over 10 years; it will grow more after that......................>>>>............................>>>>....................http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703399204574505423751140690.html
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), who is best known for making inflammatory calls for revolution against President Obama, now has the full backing of the GOP leadership in her latest push to protest against the "tyranny" of the Obama administration.
Bad move......clean out your 'house' first........
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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