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You know, if they didn't wait until October 1st to push the sex offendors out of Schenectady and into Rotterdam and beyond, this person could have been living in a house right around any of us.  There's plenty of graveyards around here this actually could have happened in.  I do feel sorry for this woman that this happened to her.  I am glad that this was not someone in my own family who this happened to.  Actually, the thing is, since this guy wasn't actually convicted before, he would not have been pushed out of Schenectady yet.  We would be safe...until he gets out of jail and Koiurs Law is in full effect.  Maybe we'll have Jessica's Law by then, instead.

I thought Meagans Law was the silver bullet when that piece of legislation was passed?? Now we're waiting for the state to pass Jessica's Law, that's the new silver bullet.  "Kosiurs Law" wasn't the best written piece of legislation, but the logic behind it made sense.  Keeping sex offenders away from as many children as possible.  So let's sit in the subburb and point fingers at a law that at least addressed the problem, and attemped to keep the offenders away from the highest concentration of children.  Keep'em in Schenectady, it's not my problem...BigK, you do a wonderful job of political fear mongering.  The republicans should buy you a elephant costume, you could be their mascot.

As for the Jessicas law or Kosiur(schenectady county legislature)law......it is really a moot point.....it is one of those "atleast we did something" laws.....knee jerk, voting getting, pandering laws........

What is the plumb line/foundation and BITE in the law......yeah their marked for life with GPS etc....how about castration or whatever it is called for a woman(haven't looked that one up).....that is BITE in the law.....cheaper in the long run...although being in NYS I'm sure we(tax payers) would have to pay for 'counseling'---as if we would return the testicles and ovaries, and normal life would resume....

We need to make a statement not a throat clearing.......

Remember Jessicas killer was a meth/crack addict too......that should also be addressed on it's own merits.....maybe that Schenectady parole officer could address this.......

There is a BIG picture here.....remember it is illegal to drive when drunk....

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SCHENECTADY
Old drug evidence to be destroyed
200 pounds of substances stored in Police Department
BY KATHLEEN MOORE Gazette Reporter

   Sixteen years worth of drug evidence will soon go up in smoke as the Schenectady Police Department tries to pare down the stacks of drugs stored in its evidence room.
   Police haven’t destroyed old drug evidence since 1980, leaving it stacked against the walls of the evidence room with only fading labels to identify it. Public Safety Commissioner Wayne Bennett has had his officers hand-count every piece of evidence to make sure none of it has gone missing, but now he wants to get rid of it for good.
   On Monday, he asked the Schenectady City Council for permission to burn 200 pounds of drugs, all confiscated between 1981 and 1997. Schenectady County District Attorney Robert Carney has already approved the destruction.
   “All these cases have long since been disposed of,” Bennett said.
   Burning the drugs would cost roughly $3,000, according to city officials. Council members were hesitant to approve the request without an exact cost figure, but Bennett told them that leaving 200 pounds of outdated evidence in the Police Department constituted an emergency.
   “From my perspective it is, and from yours it should be,” he said.
   Those drugs are the easiest to steal, because none of them are bar-coded and none involve active cases. In other municipalities, police have stolen old drugs because they are so infrequently checked.
   In Schenectady, authorities discovered that former vice squad offi - cer Jeffrey Curtis was stealing crack cocaine because he took it from active cases. His scheme unraveled when one alleged drug dealer took his case to trial and walked out a free man because the police couldn’t produce the drugs.
   But even if others were to try to take evidence from trials held long ago, Bennett now has police counting the drugs regularly. They last completed an audit three weeks ago, and Bennett said he doesn’t think anyone would succeed in stealing evidence again.
   “I don’t think that’s going to be a problem any more because of the other steps we’ve taken,” he said. “That’s not my primary direction with this. It’s part of our restructuring of how evidence is handled and maintained.”
   He wants to burn unneeded evidence every year as well as eventually bar-code every piece of evidence in police custody and hold regular, unannounced audits.
   He said the auditing process would be much easier if the old drugs were destroyed because it takes hours for officers to check the contents of packages that have not been barcoded. The labeled packages are also easier to track because electronic monitoring records any movement.
   Since Bennett’s appointment three months ago, the department has bar-coded all drug evidence confiscated since 2000. Bennett hopes to destroy all the drugs that were picked up before then, but Carney has not yet checked all of the cases in 1998 and 1999 to make sure the evidence is no longer needed.
   “We handed him numerous drug cases to verify the disposition,” Bennett said. “That’s a lot of work.”
   Once Carney releases the drugs, it’s not a simple matter to destroy them. They must be burned at a trash incinerator site under the supervision of police and a health department inspector. The incinerator must close down all trash operations during the drug burning, which takes 15 to 20 minutes, Bennett said.
   Only a few area incinerators are willing to burn drug evidence. One of the closest is the Wheelabrator Hudson Falls facility, which has agreed to destroy Schenectady’s drugs along with drugs from the state police on an unannounced date.
   There, Schenectady’s old drugs will be turned into electricity for Washington County, through the incinerator’s waste-to-energy equipment.
   The operators and supervisors also won’t have to worry about the hallucinatory effects of burning all those drugs. The facility uses negative pressure in its boilers to prevent garbage odors, debris, or in this case drug smoke, from escaping.  

  
  
  

By all means destroy the drug evidence b4 it disappears too.

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The facility uses negative pressure in its boilers to prevent garbage odors, debris, or in this case drug smoke, from escaping.  

Oh come on...let the smoke escape. Than perhaps we will all be so high for a few moments, that we will think that the city of Schenectady looks beautiful and is being run by the best and the county legislature is functional!!!

Now that is a hallucinating!!!

I thought it was always to free your mind,,,from something.......

Call me old fashioned if you'd like, but I don't really know...never tried the stuff. I have enough trouble with the mind I have. I don't need anything to further inhance it!

I can't even stand to take the pain killing drugs prescribed to me by the doctor as I don't like the feeling I get when I take them. I usually don't even fill the scripts anymore because I know that I won't take the pills, heavy duty Tylenol does just fine.

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SCHENECTADY
Attack in jail lasted 45 minutes Sheriff probing gang assault, role of guards
BY STEVEN COOK Gazette Reporter
Reach Gazette reporter Steven Cook at 395-3122 or scook@dailygazette.net.

   Four Schenectady County Jail inmates have been charged with gang assault, accused of repeatedly punching another inmate over a period of 45 minutes last week, authorities said.
   Sheriff Harry Buffardi said Tuesday the investigation into the attack continues, including how an attack could go on so long without intervention by jail guards.
   Buffardi said he could have the results by the end of the week. No disciplinary action against any guard had been taken Tuesday.
   Officials, however, have charged the four inmates with first-degree gang assault in the Aug. 15 attack on inmate Zachariah Fay. Officials described the attack as unprovoked. Fay told officials he had just entered the tier and was the only one there when five inmates returned from recreation.
   They asked him who he was “not so nicely,” said Deputy Cheryl Hill, who made the arrests.
   “He was on the phone with his girlfriend and they hung up the phone on him,” Hill said. “They started taking turns hitting him.”
   Fay then thought the attack was over and went to his cell. But they followed, continuing the attack for about 45 minutes, Hill said.
   Four of the five men took part in the attack, Hill said. The fi fth confirmed the attack to authorities later, but refused to cooperate further. He has not been charged.
   Fay was treated at Ellis Hospital for a broken cheek bone, bruises to his left eye and back and swelling to the left side of his face and head, according to papers filed in court. He was released from the hospital that evening and bailed out of jail shortly after, Hill said.
   Fay, 17, of Niskayuna, had been at the jail after being arrested the day before, accused of helping rob a 16-year-old of marijuana and a cellphone.
   Charged in Fay’s attack were Nicholas Price, 18; Nicholas Coons, 18; Corinth Snipes, 18; and Jullian Vanness, 18. Snipes and Vanness are from Schenectady, Price from Colonie and Coons from Rotterdam.
   Each faces one count of first-degree gang assault, a felony.
   It is the second assault charge against Vanness while in the jail. He was charged May 27 with second-degree assault, accused of by hitting another inmate repeatedly in the head, according to papers filed in that case.
   Vanness was originally in jail on a second-degree rape charge, Price on a second-degree burglary count, Snipes on a misdemeanor assault charge and Coons on a grand larceny charge, records show.  

  
  
  

Okay...so are they saying that there were no guards or any supervision while this was going on FOR 45 MINUTES? Or did the guards just let them go at it?

That's the $20,000 question yet to be answered Bumble.

Now we will wait and see if we will ever get the answer. It will depend on which way the gazette sways.

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Oh come on...let the smoke escape. Than perhaps we will all be so high for a few moments, that we will think that the city of Schenectady looks beautiful and is being run by the best and the county legislature is functional!!!

Now that is a hallucinating!!!

But they're transporting this junk all the way to Washington County.  2 Counties away.  I doubt any of that smoke would make it back this way for the County Legislature to inhale...or amybe they've already trimmed some off the side?

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Attack at jail brings charges
Four inmates face felony counts; inquiry into guards' lack of response launched  
  
By DAVID FILKINS, Staff writer
First published: Thursday, August 23, 2007

SCHENECTADY -- Four Schenectady County Jail inmates have been charged with gang assault after beating another inmate for 45 minutes last week, police said. A separate investigation has been launched into why guards didn't notice the lengthy attack.

  
The attack occurred at 10 a.m. Aug. 15 when, police said, four men approached and beat Zechariah Fay, 17, of Niskayuna, as he talked to his girlfriend on the phone.

"They just walked up and started pounding on him," Sheriff Harry Buffardi said.

Police said Fay returned to his cell after the initial beating and was followed by the four men, who took turns punching Fay in the body and head, fracturing his cheekbone and bruising his face, head and back.

Jullian Vanness, 18, of Schenectady; Nicholas Coons, 18, of Schenectady; Nicholas Price, 18, of Colonie; and Corinth Snipes, 18, of Schenectady, were charged with felony gang assault.

Buffardi said an investigation into the attack continues, as well as the investigation into whether staff members were negligent for not noticing the attack.

Fay had been in jail since the day before the attack after allegedly stealing marijuana and a cellphone from a teenager.

  

Maybe the guards were taping it to send it to that show "Cops".....or some other shock show.....