If they wait long enough the ACLU will be the "bad guy" (see, sheeple, the ACLU doesn't care about your kids, we do) ,,they will call the law unconstitutional and 'save face' for ALL INVOLVED......
ooohhh, the tangled lying web we weave.......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
You are right senders when you say the ACLU, who I am usually not a fan of, does not care for our kids. Nor should they. They clearly care about the law. Their job is to make sure laws are not broken and people's rights are not being violated. Sometimes I think they can go beyond rediculous, but I would welcome them with open arms in this situation.
And you can bet they are waiting in the wings, for the first sex offender to be booted out of their home in Schenectady (city).
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
It cost Kosiur the election and even he won't attend the meeting to defend his position on the sex offender law.
If Kosiur doesn't address the problems with this legislation and begin to represent his constituents, he will suffer an even greater defeat when he again runs against Amedore for the 105th District Seat in the NY State Assembly.
z2im....that is even if he makes it that far. Even if George Amedore just sits there, attends all sessions and does nothing except be his usual genuine, concerned, goodhearted, compassionate man that he is, he'd have Ed Kosiur beat hands down. Cause Ed Kosiur doesn't even have 1 of those attributes. Ed Kosiur still has a past following him around and we won't let him forget that. And the idea that Ed Kosiur has not come forward, after this election, clearly makes him look totally embarrassed. And z2im, it was Ed Kosiur who should have attended that meeting this morning, surely not Ms. Suzie Savage and Judy 'turncoat' Dagastino. Where was Caroline Lazarri? She voted 'no'. Why wasn't she there. But the main one should have been Ed Kosiur.....the author of the law.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Mrs. Lazzari has been out of town on vacation. The Friday morning meeting was called by the Mr. Gardner with little notice. I am confident that she would have been in attendance if she was in town and if she had been notified.
This was not an official meeting of the Schenectady County Legislature, but, rather, a meeting called by a few of those who seemingly consider themselves to be "in charge" of that legislative body. I suspect that the true intentions of Ms. Savage, Ms. Dagostino, and Mr. Gardner were to rationalize why the legislation was passed and to coerce acceptance of the law by the Town Supervisors. It was not held in the spirit of inter-governmental cooperation that would lead to legislation that would best represent all of the residents of the county.
It seems that the county legislature should have had this meeting with the town's supervisors BEFORE this law was passed. But that was yesterday. Now on to today and what this means for our future.
This was clearly Ed Kosiur's law. He took credit for it. He penned it. But the legislative body, by majority, voted for it. They are our representatives and should also be held accountable. It's too bad Caroline Lazarri couldn't be there. But after all of this, I would have needed a vacation as well.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I think that this new sex offender law will have to be abolished at some time or another. If the County Legislature does not abolish it, then I think that the ACLU will take them to court and it will have to be abolished then. I think that they should abolish it now before it ends up costing a lot of money in court costs. If the Democrats did that, it may help them in their elections.
I agree with you shadow, but I don't think there is much room for recovery for the dems in this year anyways. Between Ed Kosiur's raising taxes, his rediculous sex offender law and losing the state assembly election, coupled with the mud-slinging campaign Brian Quail is ready to launch, they are clearly well on their way on a collision course with disaster. Now put Schenectady's democratic machine headed by Brian Stratton in the mix and it is clearly a reciepe for disaster. The dems are surely an accident just waiting to happen.
It's time for the reps to move on up and the dems to move on out!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Carl Strock THE VIEW FROM HERE Addendum to history of sex abuse hysteria Carl Strock can be reached at 395-3085 or by e-mail at carlstrock@dailygazette.com.
As for my proffered history of sex-abuse hysteria in this country, a devoted reader reminds me of another aspect of it, which, if it didn’t quite reach the proportions of a wave, was at least a ripple. And that was “facilitated communication.” Do you remember facilitated communication? If not, I don’t blame you. It was a very specialized little ripple, applying only to people so severely impaired, whether with autism, Down syndrome or something else, that they were unable to talk. In the early 1990s came the discovery — or so it seemed — that with a little help from a friendly therapist these otherwise uncommunicative people could type out messages on a computer keyboard. The friendly therapist would gently hold the subject’s hand or wrist, just sort of to steady it or to give the person confidence, and lo, the severely impaired person would type out a meaningful message in the king’s own English. And what sort of meaningful messages would these severely impaired people type? What would be their first communication to the world around them? This is the interesting part. Often enough they would type reports of having been sexually abused! At the very time that “recovered memory” of sex abuse happened to be a huge national fad! Incredible, no? Incredible, yes, as it turned out. As study after study began to show, including one conducted at the O.D. Heck center in Niskayuna, the real typing was being done by the friendly therapists themselves, even if unconsciously. It was easy enough to demonstrate. Put up a divider and show one picture to the impaired person and another picture to the friendly therapist and ask them to identify it. Time after time, the answer they typed corresponded to the picture shown to the therapist, not to the subject. It was a simple matter of selfdeception. The therapists probably wanted to believe they had made a real breakthrough and were enabling these poor impaired people to communicate. The fascinating thing is, what was bubbling in the minds of the therapists that they unconsciously projected? It was sex abuse. More than one citizen went to jail because of accusations made through such “facilitated communication,” including a man in North Creek. So that was another small part of the national sex-abuse hysteria. Another little ripple. I thank my devoted reader for reminding me of it.
I sure hope you're right Bumble as this area could really use a change in policy from the way this city/county has been run for a long time. The days of tax and spend have to be replaced with tax cuts, spending cuts, and more jobs so we can move into the 21st century and out of the dark ages.
We need to cut spending!!! No more government hand outs! Our taxes will never come down, but if they curve all of this rediculous spending, it just may keep our taxes at bay. HOPEFULLY!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Recently, I was doing some research on anti-Jewish and anti-gay laws passed by the Nazis as a prelude to the “Final Solution.” It was unnerving to find that many of those laws were framed in a way that bore an eerie resemblance to the sex-offender residency statutes enacted by the Schenectady County Legislature. The Schenectady laws ban former offenders from going anywhere near schools, youth centers, parks, public swimming pools, playgrounds and child-care facilities. They also empower local officials to evict people from their homes even though these residents already have paid for any crime they may have committed. By way of comparison: In 1933 Jews were banned from many schools. In 1937, they were banned from parks, restaurants and swimming pools. In 1938, they were banned from beaches and holiday resorts. A 1939 law empowered local officials to evict them from their homes. New York state, in the form of Megan’s Law, already has a carefully constructed statute that governs former sex offenders. Under this law, judges, as well as probation and parole officials, are given broad discretion in dealing with ex-offenders who re-enter the community. We should rely on the existing state legislation rather than on the unconstitutional, overly broad laws passed by the Schenectady County Legislature. The Schenectady laws only pander to the sort of hysteria which has led to such terrible results in the past. FRANK DONEGAN Schenectady
Enough! Carl Strock continues to talk about the rights of sex offenders, but I have yet to see a column on the victims. If New York would pass Jessica’s Law, there would be no questions as to where they (Level 3 sex offenders) would live. We need to protect children first. What about their rights? CAROL O’BREY Scotia
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