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HarryP
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more conspiracy theories, eh?


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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A very telling view into Cicero's world.
This post says more about Cicero than it does about mass shootings.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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A very telling view into Cicero's world.
This post says more about Cicero than it does about mass shootings.


Yes...I recognize all mass murderers as psychopaths.  You on the other hand, you worship some mass murderers and revere them as "hero's" and give them a pension.


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Geez, why doesn't the NY Post thank Jack Daniels or the Miller Brewing Company when a person drives drunk and kills someone after consuming their products? These products contribute to many more deaths than the ar-15...

Oh wait, I know.. somewhere in the post there's an ad from one of those companies.


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Ex-wife’s bombshell claim: Club shooter was gay

By Chris Perez and Joe Tacopino

June 13, 2016 | 10:48pm

Sitora Yusify (right), the ex-wife of Omar Mateen, claims Mateen had "gay tendencies."Photo: Myspace ; AP

The ex-wife of Orlando mass killer Omar Mateen claimed Monday that she believed he was homosexual — as it was revealed that he frequented the gay nightclub where he staged the nation’s worst massacre in modern times.

Sitora Yusufiy, who was married to Mateen in 2009 for three months, made the shocking claim on Brazilian television station SBT Brazil.

Her fiancé, Marco Dias, speaking in Portuguese on her behalf, said Yusufiy believed that Mateen had “gay tendencies” and that his father had called him gay in front of her. Dias also claimed “the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media.”


The bombshell came as a male former classmate of Omar Mateen said he had been asked out romantically by the mass killer, who reportedly was a virtual regular at the Pulse nightclub, having visited it more than a dozen times over the years.

The former classmate said he would hang out with Mateen, hitting gay bars after attending class at Indian River Community College police academy in 2006 — and one time Mateen asked him out “romantically,” according to the Palm Beach Post.

“We went to a few gay bars with him, and I was not out at the time, so I declined his offer,” the former classmate told the paper.

The classmate told the paper he thought the killer, who pledged allegiance to ISIS before killing 49 at the gay nightclub Pulse, was gay and in the closet.

The classmate’s claims came after reports emerged that Mateen frequented the club for years before Sunday’s massacre.

“It’s the same guy,” Chris Callen, a drag queen who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, told the Canadian Press. “He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”

Callen’s husband, Ty Smith, recalled seeing a drunk Mateen being escorted from the club.

“Sometimes he . . . would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” he told the Orlando Sentinel.

At least four Pulse clubgoers remembered seeing Mateen at least a dozen times in the past. But authorities said they had no further information when asked about the sightings on Monday. NBC reported that the FBI was looking into his alleged club visits.

“[He’d get] really, really drunk,” Smith told the Canadian Press. “He couldn’t drink when he was at home — around his wife, or family. His father was really strict . . . He used to b**ch about it.”

Callen and Smith said they both stopped speaking to Mateen when he threatened them with a knife, after someone made a joke about religion.

“He ended up pulling a knife,” Callen explained. “He said if he ever messed with him again, you know how it’ll turn out.”

Sitora Yusufiy with her fiance Marco Dias at their home outside Boulder, Colorado, on Sunday, June 12, 2016.Photo: AP

They also shot down claims that Mateen had snapped after seeing two men kissing each other in public.

“That’s bullcrap, right there. No offense. That’s straight-up crap. He’s been around us,” Smith said. “Some of those people did a little more than (kiss) outside the bar … He was partying with the people who supposedly drove him to do this?”

Kevin West, another regular at Pulse, told the Los Angeles Times that Mateen used gay dating apps on a regular basis and even messaged him on a gay dating app, Jack’d.

He even saw Mateen an hour before the shooting.

“He walked directly past me. I said, ‘Hey,’ and he turned and said, ‘Hey,’ ” and nodded his head, recalled West. “I could tell by the eyes [it was him].”

One Orlando man, who refused to be named, told MSNBC that he had seen photos of Mateen on several gay dating apps, including Grindr, Adam4Adam, and Jack’d. He claimed that at least two of the man’s friends had been contacted by Mateen on the apps in the past.



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Homophobia is often a sign of self loathing about being gay.  
The person can't reconcile his gay feelings in himself so he turns it into gay hatred.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Homophobia is often a sign of self loathing about being gay.  
The person can't reconcile his gay feelings in himself so he turns it into gay hatred.



Thanks for that insight Sigmund Freud.

What do you suggest...background checks to help identify those who are "self loathing about being gay" and deny them the right to purchase a gun?


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Oh wait, I know.. somewhere in the post there's an ad from one of those companies.


yes...but the beer ad reminds their customers to "drink responsibly".  Gun manufacturers don't do that.  


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Thanks for that insight Sigmund Freud.

What do you suggest...background checks to help identify those who are "self loathing about being gay" and deny them the right to purchase a gun?


Cicero... My post was in response to your post:
"Ex-wife’s bombshell claim: Club shooter was gay"

I'm sorry if the FACTS offend you.

If you are looking for a "motive" for killing gays... and your chief suspect is a closet gay... then
that may be your motive.  Or if you just hate Muslims.... then ignore this possibility.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cicero... My post was in response to your post:
"Ex-wife’s bombshell claim: Club shooter was gay"

I'm sorry if the FACTS offend you.

If you are looking for a "motive" for killing gays... and your chief suspect is a closet gay... then
that may be your motive.  Or if you just hate Muslims.... then ignore this possibility.


Nothing offends me... I'm just curious which gun law are you going to propose to prevent a self loathing gay Muslim democrat from getting their hands on guns and ammo and shooting up a night club.


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Nothing offends me... I'm just curious which gun law are you going to propose to prevent a self loathing gay Muslim democrat from getting their hands on guns and ammo and shooting up a night club.


How about a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines???


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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How about a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines???


Is that for everybody, or will some citizens be permitted to possess them?


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How about a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines???


And again 'Assault Weapon' is a made up name. Maybe if you said 'ban semi-automatic rifles and pistols'

Ban high capacity magazines? Sure. It will be about as effective as a 'Gun Free School Zone'. We see how well terrorists and criminals obey the law.





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GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

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Is that for everybody, or will some citizens be permitted to possess them?

Let me guess...

If Box says "everyone" then you will come back and comp0lain that it's an unfair practice and innocent law abiding people are being punished because of a few, and this is infringement on our rights.

If Box says "some citizens be permitted" then you will come back with how can it be selective and how do you know which can or should and which shouldn't. Aside from being profiling, it's also an
infringement on our rights and we should not be discriminated against and not allowed to own weapons just because some person says we shouldn't.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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