Quoted from joebxr

Then I guess you don't even know what you write....it is difficult to understand, isn't it!

that wasn't a label...that was to get you to answer

besides I'm not a politician that needs your vote and I'm not the government that needs to put you in a tax bracket.

Quoted from joebxr

Then I guess you don't even know what you write....it is difficult to understand, isn't it!

So many of senders posts are so incoherent, I just assumed that senders was a 'random sentence generator',
not an actual person.

Albany Police investigate officer after video of confrontation goes viral

Created: 09/14/2015 3:58 PM WNYT.com
By: Jessica Riley

Albany Police are investigating after a video taken of a police confrontation in downtown Albany goes viral on social media.

The video shows a police officer confronting a street performer on North Pearl Street.

A police spokesperson says the department was made aware of the video on Monday and is investigating.

Officer Glenn Szelest has been placed on administrative duties as the investigation takes place.

The video was posted on You Tube:

Judge rules man's arrest for writing profanity on speeding ticket was unconstitutional


Published September 16, 2015·
FoxNews.com

A federal judge has ruled that an upstate New York town violated a Connecticut man's First Amendment rights when he was arrested on a charge of aggravated harassment for writing profanities on a $175 speeding ticket three years ago.

In ruling issued last week, U.S. District Judge Cathy Seibel allowed Willian Barboza's lawsuit against the village of Liberty, N.Y. to proceed on claims the town of approximately 10,000 people 100 miles northwest of New York City failed to properly train police officers about free speech.

The New York Civil Liberties Union, which represented Barboza, publicized a transcript of the trial Tuesday.

Barboza, who was 22 at the time of his initial arrest, was stopped for speeding on Route 17 in May 2012, according to The New York Times. On his payment form, Barboza crossed out the name of the town and wrote "Tyranny" in its place. He then wrote the phrase "F--- your s----y town b----es."

When the form arrived at the Liberty town clerk's office, one of the workers, all of whom are women, told a local judge Barboza's profane phrase upset and alarmed them, according to court records. The judge referred Barboza's speeding payment form to a prosecutor and ordered Barboza to appear in court.

When Barboza showed up, the local judge reprimanded him for his comments on the form and told him he would be arrested, Seibel said in her ruling. Barboza was handcuffed and taken away before his release on $200 bail.


Seibel's ruling noted the criminal charge eventually was dismissed in 2013 on First Amendment grounds. She said Barboza's phrase was crude and offensive to some but "did not convey an imminent threat and was made in the context of complaining about government activity."

"That the court clerks who received plaintiff's message were apparently alarmed by it does not alter the analysis," the judge added.

In an NYCLU release, Barboza was quoted as saying he was treated as a criminal for a "few harmless words."

"Instead of protecting freedom of speech, government officers in Liberty handcuffed me, arrested me for a crime and almost sent me to jail because I harmlessly expressed my frustration with a speeding ticket," he said.

Barboza's case is not unique in Liberty. Seibel said that between 2003 and 2012 as many as 63 arrests by police officers in the village had occurred "because of the use of vulgar words in what may be perceived as a threatening context." She said one arrest occurred when a defendant called someone a slut, another resulted from someone talking about sexual acts on a police department phone line and another came after a defendant threatened to kill someone's dog.

Seibel added the trial would include a damages phase for a prosecutor who is not protected by immunity because his actions were unreasonable.

Barboza's lawsuit had sought unspecified damages.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015.....et-was/?intcmp=hpbt3

Quoted from joebxr

So it's not a victimless crime...thank you!

Quoted from CICERO

CDTA city buses, Greyhound, Trailways, Wade's Tours, school buses, taxis, livery vehicles, limousines, mail men, the drivers of the garbage trucks and the recycle trucks. ambulances, tow trucks, fire trucks and the cops, and any vehicle older than 1964, are allowed to travel freely without a seat belt.

it generates revenue.........for the ENTIRE corrupt system!!!!

Quoted from bumblethru

it generates revenue.........for the ENTIRE corrupt system!!!!

They continuously seek out new ways to extract money from people to justify their own, way better than average salaries, and retirement packages.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

CDTA city buses, Greyhound, Trailways, Wade's Tours, school buses, taxis, livery vehicles, limousines, mail men, the drivers of the garbage trucks and the recycle trucks. ambulances, tow trucks, fire trucks and the cops, and any vehicle older than 1964, are allowed to travel freely without a seat belt.

it's a $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ machine......and political fodder and insurance control and business for lawyers...

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Who is required to wear a seat belt?

New York law requires all drivers and front seat passengers to be buckled up, no matter how old they are. In the back seat, children under 16 must be buckled up at all times. Although adults in the backseat should always wear a seat belt for safety reasons, they are not legally required to in New York. Children under the age of 6 must be in an age-appropriate child seat. Merely buckling them up with an adult seat belt is not going to satisfy the requirements of the law.

There are a few exceptions to the seat belt requirements, however. For example, police cars, fire trucks and ambulances are exempt. So are taxi cabs and cars for hire. Vehicles made before 1964 that were not manufactured with seat belts installed are grandfathered from the seat belt requirement. New York is unique in that safety belts are required to be available in school buses, although whether or not children must wear them is up to local school boards. Seat belts are not required in other types of buses. Also, people with a medical condition that makes it unsafe for them to wear a seat belt are exempt with a doctor's note. Mail carriers that have to get in and out of their vehicles constantly are exempt from the seat belt requirement while that are working. However, aside from these limited circumstances, everyone needs to be buckled up...or else!

SHOW ME THE $$$$ TRAIL.......

Everyone in my car front and back has to buckle up. The car does not move until you buckle up.  There is no way I want a 160 person from the back hurling into me because they are not belted in.  All seat belts are connected so when a person gets in they don't have to dig into the seat folds to find it.  I removed the right side rear head rest since it interferes with my line of site of cars coming up on the right side of me but if someone gets in the back I have them in the trunk and put it in.  Reduces neck injuries.

My dad's 65 Chevy station wagon came with lap belts and he would not move till all of us were belted in but what we didn't know then was without a shoulder strap he actually put the woman riders in peril.  Many woman lost their bladders and reproductive organs due to not wearing the belts low over the hips.  Even today people do not wear the belts correctly.  The lap belt should be low on the hips and snugged up a bit but very few people do this and they actually can cause injury.

For me my life is in jeporty every time I drive.  The airbag will kill me.  I am only 5'1' and have to sit close to the steering wheel. The shoulder strap cuts across the side of my neck.  I stiil wear the belts. I am a NASCAR and racing fan for over 55 years and know just how important belts and head rests can be.

I believe though a person should have the right to choose to wear one or not and not the government telling us we must but in my car you must wear one.  I don't want you clobbering me from behind when you become a missile.

I don't think my taxes should pay for Medicaid to pay the hospital bills for someone who chosses not to wear the belts.  As cruel as it sounds you get into an accident and weren't wearing the belts then you don't get medical services till you put down the bucks to pay for the injuries you got being ejected or no rehabilitation at Sunnyview for you brain injuries till you pay first.

As far as this dumb woman she should have her license taken away permanently  She does not comprehend what the signs mean!!

Quoted from Cel

I don't think my taxes should pay for Medicaid to pay the hospital bills for someone who chooses not to wear the belts.  As cruel as it sounds you get into an accident and weren't wearing the belts then you don't get medical services till you put down the bucks to pay for the injuries you got being ejected or no rehabilitation at Sunnyview for you brain injuries till you pay first.

People already must have mandatory insurance on the vehicle and on themselves.(thanks to Rockefeller and Obama)

The entire point is that only half of society is forced to comply.

So I'm assuming you don't mind your taxes paying for cops, taxi drivers and their passengers, limousine drivers and their drunken passengers, school kids on the school buses, etc. that choose to not wear seat belts?

So are you saying that you are against the concept of equal treatment under the law?

Selective laws that target half the population are elitist and Unconstitutional.

Quoted from joebxr

Who is required to wear a seat belt?

New York law requires all drivers and front seat passengers to be buckled up, no matter how old they are. In the back seat, children under 16 must be buckled up at all times. Although adults in the backseat should always wear a seat belt for safety reasons, they are not legally required to in New York. Children under the age of 6 must be in an age-appropriate child seat. Merely buckling them up with an adult seat belt is not going to satisfy the requirements of the law.

There are a few exceptions to the seat belt requirements, however. For example, police cars, fire trucks and ambulances are exempt. So are taxi cabs and cars for hire. Vehicles made before 1964 that were not manufactured with seat belts installed are grandfathered from the seat belt requirement. New York is unique in that safety belts are required to be available in school buses, although whether or not children must wear them is up to local school boards. Seat belts are not required in other types of buses. Also, people with a medical condition that makes it unsafe for them to wear a seat belt are exempt with a doctor's note. Mail carriers that have to get in and out of their vehicles constantly are exempt from the seat belt requirement while that are working. However, aside from these limited circumstances, everyone needs to be buckled up...or else!

Thanks for agreeing with me.

The last sentence was not part of the NY State official statement, just your own stupidity thrown in.

No laws were ever written that state do it, "or else!"

It is far from a limited few.

Taxis, limousines, city buses, school buses and their passengers alone are tens of millions a day.

The argument that people don't want their tax dollars paying for people who choose to do stupid schitt was the reason mandatory car insurance was put in place.

Then the same argument was used for mandatory health insurance.

In the real world this is known as layered redundancy.

Here is the real law directly from the dmv.ny.gov website.

Note it doesn't say "or else!" anywhere.


New York State's Occupant Restraint Law

Seat belts save lives and help prevent serious injuries in a traffic crash. This is why New York State requires seat belt use by adults in motor vehicles. and seat belts. booster seats. or child safety seats for children.

New York is a "primary enforcement" state. A law enforcement officer can issue a traffic ticket just for failure to wear a seat belt. A ticket can be issued to the driver who fails to make sure a child passenger is properly secured in a safety seat or with a seat belt. This law also applies to visitors from outside New York State.

Highlights of New York State's occupant restraint law:

    In the front seat, the driver and each passenger must wear a seat belt, one person per belt. The driver and front-seat passengers aged 16 or older can be fined up to $50 each for failure to buckle up.
    Every occupant, regardless of age or seating position, of a motor vehicle being operated by the holder of a Class-DJ Learner Permit, a Limited Class-DJ, or Class-DJ Driver License must be restrained by a safety restraint.
    Each passenger under age 16 must wear a seat belt or use an appropriate child safety restraint system. The restraint system must comply with the child height and weight recommendations determined by the manufacturer. Depending on the size of the child, the restraint system may be a safety seat or a booster seat used in combination with a lap and shoulder belt.
    The driver must make sure that each passenger under age 16 obeys the law. The driver can be fined $25 to $100 and receive three driver license penalty points for each violation.
    Seat belt use is not required in taxis or livery vehicles, emergency vehicles, 1964 or older vehicles, or by passengers in buses other than school buses (seat belt use may be required by the school district). Rural letter Carriers are also exempt while they are delivering mail.

Tip: Keep your seat belt tight but comfortable.

CHILDREN IN SEAT BELTS

Every child under age 16 in the vehicle must use a safety restraint. If under age four, he or she must be properly secured in a federally-approved child safety seat that is attached to a vehicle by a safety belt or universal child restraint anchorage (LATCH) system. A child under age four who weighs more than 40 pounds may be restrained in a booster seat with a lap and shoulder belt. A child of age 4, 5, 6 or 7, must use a booster seat with lap and shoulder belt or a child safety seat (The child and safety restraint system must meet the height and weight recommendations of the restraint manufacturer.)

Exception: A child more than four feet nine inches tall or more than 100 pounds is allowed to use a seat belt that has both a lap belt and a shoulder harness. To use the seat belt, the child must be able to sit straight up against the vehicle's seat back with his or her knees bent comfortably over the edge of the seat. The lap belt should be placed low and tight across the upper thighs; the shoulder belt should rest tightly but comfortably across the child's chest and shoulder (collar bone) without touching the throat. If the seat belt does not fit properly, the child should use a booster seat with a lap and shoulder belt.

A booster seat can be used only with a lap and shoulder belt together. If all the combination lap and shoulder belt positions in the vehicle are already occupied by children using child safety seats or booster seats, a child who ordinarily would use a booster seat should be restrained using only the lap belt.

An appropriate child safety restraint system:

    Is required for all children until their 8th birthday and,
    Must meet the size and weight requirements for the child based on the Federal requirements and the recommendations of the manufacturer, and
    Can be a child safety seat, a harness, a vest or a booster seat attached with the vehicle seat belt or latch system, but not the vehicle seat belt alone, and
    Should not be used in the front seat of the vehicle.

If the child is eight years old and is under 4'9" tall or weighs less than 100 lbs, it is recommended that you continue to use a child restraint system.

SEAT BELTS ON SCHOOL BUSES

New York State law requires that large school buses manufactured after July 1, 1987, be equipped with seat belts, and that schools make them accessible to each vehicle occupant. Every school bus driver is required to wear a seat belt, and children under the age of four must ride in properly installed, federally-certified child safety seats. Each school district sets its own policy for seat belt use by the other passengers.

SEAT BELTS IN SCHOOL VEHICLES

In a school vehicle which is not built to meet federal school bus construction standards, New York State Law requires that all children must ride in a properly installed, federally-certified child safety seat or booster until their 8th birthday. Vehicles of these types include school cars, vans, suburbans and SUVs.

WHY YOU NEED TO WEAR A SEAT BELT

A seat belt absorbs the force of impact in a traffic crash and reduces your risk of being killed or injured. It holds you securely to help prevent you from striking hard objects inside the vehicle while being tossed around. You are less likely to be thrown (ejected) through the vehicle's windshield or doors - and vehicle ejection usually results in death.

Your seat belt offers the most protection when you sit upright. Most seat belts easily adjust to allow some comfort and free movement until you need it for protection. To properly wear your seat belt, the lap belt portion should be tight but comfortable across your upper thighs at your hip joints and the shoulder belt should rest snugly across your chest and shoulder, away from your face or neck. Never place the shoulder belt behind your back or under your arm. Improper use of a seat belt or shoulder belt can cause internal injuries in a crash.

PREGNANT WOMEN

If you are pregnant, your seat belt can help protect yourself and the baby you are expecting. Make sure the lap belt is low on your hips, under your abdomen, and the shoulder belt is resting closely and comfortably across your chest and shoulder.

Tip: During wintry conditions, you may have to loosen a heavy coat or lift it out of the way so it does not interfere with the proper adjustment of the seat belt.

MEDICAL EXEMPTION

For almost every medical problem or physical situation, wearing a seat belt increases your protection against death or serious injury. However, if a physical condition inhibits the proper use of a seat belt, you may be exempt from the seat belt law if your doctor certifies your condition and exemption in writing. Certification must be on the physicians letterhead and carried with you when you travel.

AIR BAGS

An air bag provides extra protection against crash injuries. It works with seat belts, and does not replace them. An air bag helps protect a front-seat occupant in a head-on or side crash by inflating upon impact. This rapid inflation cushions the occupant from collision with the steering-wheel, dashboard, windshield, side windows, or metal doorframe.

Air bags deploy (expand rapidly) from the steering wheel and/or dashboard, and, in some vehicles, from the side doors beneath or above the window. The force of an air bag deploying may injure those who sit too close to it. Make sure to sit with at least 10 inches between the center of your breastbone and the air bag cover. If you are the vehicle's driver, place your hands on the steering-wheel at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions to keep them out of the way of air bag deployment. For maximum protection, children under the age of 12 should sit in the rear seat of the vehicle.

Tip: Never put an infant in a rear-facing child safety seat in the front seat of a vehicle that has an air bag on or in the dashboard.


New York State Department of Motor Vehicles
Andrew M. Cuomo, Governor
Theresa L. Egan, Executive Deputy Commissioner
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Now read closely where it says a $50 fine can be imposed.

Then it says a $25 to $100 fine can be imposed for your passengers.

Yet I was fined $150 for not wearing one myself.

So not only is the law discriminatory against private citizens, but the government doesn't even follow it's own law when imposing fines.

Greyhound alone operated nearly 5.5 billion passenger miles last year.

So let's just say a couple trillion passenger miles for those elite limited few who don't have to follow the law.

Hypocritical supporters of unequal treatment under the law.