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mikechristine1
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It will be interesting to see what ends up

But here's a couple of things.




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ROTTERDAM — Toni Bascue …


The project’s plans do not include adding a sewer line to the commercial corridor…

If I have a sewer issue, I have to dig up my whole back lot — that’s where my parking is ,” said Bascue, a co-owner of J.T. Cutting Company at 2432 Hamburg St., who would be digging to get to her septic tank.

“This would be the time to put them in,” she added.




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Tracey Kane, owner of Tracey’s Hair and Beauty Salon at 2621 Hamburg St., …. But she said a sewer line would actually open up parking and alleviate that concern.

I have a septic in the back, so I can’t park on the septic,” she said.




So which is it?  Can you park or can't you park?






Then the other thing:


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Wood also said residents voted down a referendum to create a sewer district in that part of town more than a decade ago.



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He said that could be done “for a very modest cost, basically the cost of the pipe,” and businesses and residents could have the option to hook up to it once a sewer district is formed.




What is "very modest cost?"   Common sense is the fewer people that hook up, the higher the cost to those that do.  

I don't remember the numbers but wasn't there quite a high cost to Highbridge people when sewers were offered when cable was going over there?  Maybe like $1,000 a year for 20 years?    Plus there would have to be probably annual sewer district fee for operating costs

Naturally the town wasn't there to address that, provide people with actual costs.

We don't live on Hamburg but we do know that the truth is that people in the city pay easily $300 a year for sewer fee vs roughly $50 per year ($150 every three years) for residential to pump out their septic, of course depending on the number of people in the house.  The start up costs for sewers in Schenectady were probably paid off over a century ago.  Sewers could be good as long as it's optional and only those who want it will be the ones to pay for it.  Taxes are high enough.  It seems that sewers are favored  more by cheerleaders who don't pay the tax bills



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it is up to the folks on hamburg street....obviously.... since it will be their taxing district.

they will just have to vote on it.


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The town also charges a very nice fee called a hookup fee which can be a sizeable amount for some people.
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The Hamburg Street Corridor needs a sewer line or it will remain underdeveloped.  I think the "by any means legally necessary" approach should be undertaken to get the sewer line built.  


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The Hamburg Street Corridor needs a sewer line or it will remain underdeveloped.  I think the "by any means legally necessary" approach should be undertaken to get the sewer line built.  


As long as it's OPTIONAL to the property owners (as the news report mentioned)


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The Hamburg Street Corridor needs a sewer line or it will remain underdeveloped.  I think the "by any means legally necessary" approach should be undertaken to get the sewer line built.  



So, by any means, you want to force higher costs on the taxpayers.  But then, you don't pay taxes nor a family to support.

Look at the cost 13 years ago.  



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this issue is for the hamburg street area folks to engage in.
opinions are just that....opinions....which everyone is entitled to.

So in all actuality, it will be the hamburg street area folks who will ultimately be affected....so it's in their lap.


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My understanding is that property owners used to be able to put a septic system under a parking lot but that its no longer allowed.  I believe that the change is due to a change in state law and not just a whim of the the town board.  So a property owner could have a septic system under a parking lot (like Carman Fire Department does) if it was put in when it was legal.  However - if the system were to fail, they could not put the new system under the parking lot.
I cite the Carman Fire Department purposely because the lack of a public sewer line could jeopardize public safety.  If the fire department's current septic system were to fail, they might not be able to replace it due to space constraints at their current site.  If it were legally possible, I would push the town board to create a sewer district for the commercial property owners and fired department, get state and federal aid to assist in paying for it and get it built while the Hamburg Street road project is done.  After the fact, residential property owners could "buy into" the sewer district if they chose to do so.


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My understanding is that property owners used to be able to put a septic system under a parking lot but that its no longer allowed.  I believe that the change is due to a change in state law and not just a whim of the the town board.  So a property owner could have a septic system under a parking lot (like Carman Fire Department does) if it was put in when it was legal.  However - if the system were to fail, they could not put the new system under the parking lot.
I cite the Carman Fire Department purposely because the lack of a public sewer line could jeopardize public safety.  If the fire department's current septic system were to fail, they might not be able to replace it due to space constraints at their current site.  If it were legally possible, I would push the town board to create a sewer district for the commercial property owners and fired department, get state and federal aid to assist in paying for it and get it built while the Hamburg Street road project is done.  After the fact, residential property owners could "buy into" the sewer district if they chose to do so.


agree.


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Each effected homeowner (and I believe business) will have a one on one meeting - and be shown how their property will be affected and what the compensation will be.  These meetings are supposed to start happening shortly.


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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Rotterdam can barely manage it's effluent....


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