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yeah bumble...stop slandering Margaret Sanger, she's a wonderful woman.



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/grossu-margaret-sanger-eugenicist/


Cissy's rant against Sanger is interesting...
AND
somehow hopefully he will connect that rant to Planned Parenthood today.


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Cissy's rant against Sanger is interesting...
AND
somehow hopefully he will connect that rant to Planned Parenthood today.


I wasn't ranting against Sanger.  I was correcting bumble's slanderous post about Sanger and provided accurate and cited Sanger quotes.  I seen that you were concerned about Sanger's good name being slandered.  


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yeah bumble...stop slandering Margaret Sanger, she's a wonderful woman.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/grossu-margaret-sanger-eugenicist/


Cicero's Right WInger Rant misses the mark yet again.

Don't take my word for it Cicero... Read FACTCHECK.ORG on your Sanger slander:

Of course cicero isn't interested in the TRUTH or the FACTS, he's only interested in the HYPE.
So... we can believe Cicero's "forced birther" ravings,
or
we can read the FACTS from FACTCHECK.ORG:
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Sanger, who was arrested several times in her efforts to bring birth control to women
in the United States, set up her first clinic in Brooklyn in 1916. In the late 1930s, she sought
to bring clinics to black women in the South, in an effort that was called the “Negro Project.”
Sanger wrote in 1939 letters to colleague Clarence James Gamble that she believed the
project needed a black physician and black minister to gain the trust of the community:
Sanger, 1939: The minister’s work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by
the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to
go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who
can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to
“exterminate the Negro population.” She didn’t say that she wanted to “exterminate” the
black population. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this
quote has “gone viral on the Internet,” normally out of context, and it “doesn’t reflect the fact
that Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the
Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south, unless clergy and other
community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.”


Again... now that Cicero knows the TRUTH of his comments, I assume he will post a complete
retraction for purposefully slanderous statements.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/11/cains-false-attack-on-planned-parenthood/


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Cicero's Right WInger Rant misses the mark yet again.

Don't take my word for it Cicero... Read FACTCHECK.ORG on your Sanger slander:

Of course cicero isn't interested in the TRUTH or the FACTS, he's only interested in the HYPE.
So... we can believe Cicero's "forced birther" ravings,
or
we can read the FACTS from FACTCHECK.ORG:


Again... now that Cicero knows the TRUTH of his comments, I assume he will post a complete
retraction for purposefully slanderous statements.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/11/cains-false-attack-on-planned-parenthood/


I posted what was written by the Washington Times.  If their quotes are incorrect, then they are guilty of libel, not me.


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I posted what was written by the Washington Times.  If their quotes are incorrect, then they are guilty of libel, not me.


Actually cicero, your story is from (no surprise here) a Right Wing Christian Fundamentalist
terror group... The Family Research Council.

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The Family Research Council (FRC) is an American conservative Christian group and
lobbying organization formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson.
Your  FRC promotes what it considers to be traditional family values, by advocating and
lobbying for socially conservative policies. It opposes and lobbies against LGBT rights
(such as same-sex marriage and LGBT adoption), abortion, divorce, embryonic stem-cell
research
and pornography. The FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known
as FRC Action.In 2010, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) classified the FRC as an
anti-gay hate group,


Nice try hiding your true politics!  OMG THE FRC  
Why not the KKK?  


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this is NOT a political issue, nor should it be made to be....since we already know that the 'collective government' isn't going to do anything one way or the other about it!

nor is it a media issue.....since we already know that the media is nothing more than the arm of the 'collective government'.

this is a HUMAN/MORAL/LIFE issue!!

there should not be ONE human being out there that isn't disgusted by the procedure of dismembering babies (some born alive) and selling their body parts to the highest bidder!!!

I mean come on here people....it is a demonic evil horrific procedure....

but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Actually cicero, your story is from (no surprise here) a Right Wing Christian Fundamentalist
terror group... The Family Research Council.



Nice try hiding your true politics!  OMG THE FRC  
Why not the KKK?  


I posted the link...it is the Washington Times.  The WT must print FRC info.  PP was founded on eugenics, there is no disputing that fact.  It still participates in eugenics by harvesting and selling fetal organs harvested from the disproportionate majority of Black, Hispanic and poor population.




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I posted the link...it is the Washington Times.  The WT must print FRC info.  PP was founded on eugenics, there is no disputing that fact.  It still participates in eugenics by harvesting and selling fetal organs harvested from the disproportionate majority of Black, Hispanic and poor population.




So... According to Cissy's logic... if most of PP's customers are Black and Hispanic...
then (with cissy's view)
PP is "still participates in eugenics"
where if the majority is white...
PP doesn't  participates in eugenics.

Not surprising... Logic was never Cissy's strong suit.

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FYI:
Legal Abortions by Race of Woman Who Obtained Abortion

White 55%
Black 37%
Other 8%
Total 100%


Kaiser Foundation



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Undercover investigator David Daleiden tells CNN the reason StemExpress is trying to suppress the video he took of its CEO on May 22 is because the company doesn’t want anyone to know it bought whole intact dead babies from Planned Parenthood.

Daleiden said on CNN, “In a meeting with their top leadership, they admitted that they sometimes get fully intact fetuses shipped to their laboratory from the abortion clinics they work with, and that could be prima facie evidence of born alive infants. And so that’s why they’re trying to suppress that videotape and they’re very scared of it.”



On May 22, Daleiden and his team had lunch with StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer and other senior personnel from the company that is the main buyer of freshly killed baby parts from Planned Parenthood. As the Center for Medical Progress has released videos, four so far, it is certain that anyone who met with Daleiden, who was posing as CEO of a fictitious company called BioMax, would become worried about what they might have said. Apparently StemExpress talked about things that may shock America and any future stockholders of the as-yet privately held company.

StemExpress filed a lawsuit against Daleiden earlier this week in hopes of stopping the video and other material from being distributed. They are claiming the meeting was confidential and that Daleiden signed a confidentiality agreement. A Superior Court Judge in Los Angeles rejected one claim by StemExpress outright on Monday evening, but ordered a very narrow temporary restraining order related to that one video on Tuesday.

It is now clear why StemExpress is fighting so hard to suppress the video.


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Undercover investigator David Daleiden tells CNN


Lets go with Bumbler's opening sentences:
Who is this David Daleiden that Bumbler seems to be so fond of???
Is he an "Investigative Reporter"? NOPE.
A Journalist??? NOPE.

So who is he and why does Bumbler believe what he has to say???

~ David Daleiden is an anti-abortion activist who worked for Live Action before founding his group
the Center for Medical Progress. (Daleiden is the Forced Birther who made the fake, edited
PP videos.)
~  Daleiden set up a fake biomedical research company, called Biomax Procurement Services,
and created secret recordings where his associates asked about tissue donation costs, and
questioned whether tissue samples could be acquired from African American patients with
sickle-cell anaemia.
In response, Planned Parenthood said that they may donate fetal tissue at the request of a
patient, but that such tissue is never sold.

~ Daleiden Under Investigation
Already, California Attorney General Kamala Harris has announced an investigation into the
Center for Medical Progress. Her investigation seems to be geared toward whether the group
violated any laws in connection with its registration with the state’s Registry of Charitable Trusts,
but she also said her office would look at whether the group had committed “any violations of
California law.”

According to a California criminal defense attorney, Michael Kraut, there is some reason to
believe that Daleiden and his associates may have violated California and federal law on
forgery, credit card fraud, and identity theft.


If Daleiden and his accomplices did in fact provide fake government ID cards, they could have
violated California laws that prohibit forgery, fraud, and perjury, said Kraut whose firm, Kraut
Law Group, represents defendants in Los Angeles and Orange counties.


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So... According to Cissy's logic... if most of PP's customers are Black and Hispanic...
then (with cissy's view)
PP is "still participates in eugenics"
where if the majority is white...
PP doesn't  participates in eugenics.

Not surprising... Logic was never Cissy's strong suit.


Kaiser Foundation



Non-Hispanic white women account for 36% of abortions, non-Hispanic black women for 30%, Hispanic women for 25% and women of other races for 9%.
64% if abortions are non-White

55% are black and Hispanic


Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).

Source: Guttermatch.com


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Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).

Source: Guttermatch.com


There it is, poverty is, in fact,  a major cause of abortions.

But the same extremists against abortion are against welfare and other social programs.

But they are fine with a trillion dollars a year spent on weapons of mass destruction.

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this is NOT a political issue, nor should it be made to be....since we already know that the 'collective government' isn't going to do anything one way or the other about it!

nor is it a media issue.....since we already know that the media is nothing more than the arm of the 'collective government'.

this is a HUMAN/MORAL/LIFE issue!!

there should not be ONE human being out there that isn't disgusted by the procedure of dismembering babies (some born alive) and selling their body parts to the highest bidder!!!

I mean come on here people....it is a demonic evil horrific procedure....

but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand



Other countries consider the US to be the perpetrators of evil horrific deeds.

Killing a fetus is horrible, sure, but so was killing 100,00 innocent Iraqi civilians.

If we put the same amount of money into finding homes for unwanted fetuses/babies, we could nearly eradicate abortions.

We concentrate on spending a trillion dollars a year on weapons of mass destruction.

Because millions of jobs and corporations depend on it.

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up next baby "Soylent Green" cause its only tissue....right?      
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The more that PP and the Dems attack the makers of the video the more people believe that PP is guilty as stated in those videos. Attack the source it's the Alinsky way.
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