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If you aren't willing to follow the law, then don't run for office or resign if it conflicts with your personal views.

Similar to those who refuse to enforce the SAFE ACT or OathCreapers.  Your job isn't to legislate it's to enforces the law.
If it conflicts with your personal views, resign.


Exactly...Similar to those that refuse to enforce sodomy laws.  Or those in Colorado and Washington refusing to enforce federal drug laws.  It reminds me of those  rogue northern states and abolitionists that refused to enforce the fugitive slave act. Those lawless northerners started a civil war by nullifying that federal law.  


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If you aren't willing to follow the law, then don't run for office or resign if it conflicts with your personal views.

Similar to those who refuse to enforce the SAFE ACT or OathCreapers.  Your job isn't to legislate it's to enforces the law.
If it conflicts with your personal views, resign.


Following the laws of Kentucky:

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Kentucky Constitutional Amendment 1
Kentucky Constitutional Amendment 1[1] of 2004, is an amendment to the Kentucky Constitution that makes it unconstitutional for the state to recognize or perform same-sex marriages or civil unions. The referendum was approved by 75% of the voters.[2]

The text of the amendment states:

Only a marriage between one man and one woman shall be valid or recognized as a marriage in Kentucky. A legal status identical or substantially similar to that of marriage for unmarried individuals shall not be valid or recognized.[3]


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Madonna's Brother Defends Jailed Clerk Who Refused Marriage Licenses for Gay Couples

The Hollywood Reporter
THR Staff
September 5, 2015

His full post can be seen below.

The county clerk in Kentucy deserves about as much support as you would give her if she were a muslim women who insisted on covering her face and refused not only gay marriages licenses, but divorce, accusations of rape and driving a car without ur mans approval.....perspective is everything.....this woman is a civil servant, she is required to follow federal law.....but why should she....when DOJ and other civil authories don't follow federal law when they choose not to.....i.e. Washington State and Colorado (POT) come to mind...or the abstract notion of "sanctuary cities".....i always thought that sanctuary was the province of churches.......these things aside....this is why we have elections.....if the folks of this county in Kentucy don't want her as the county clerk....then don't have to vote for her.....that is how a democracy works....not to mention the courts....in the mean time.....since when are we the arbiter of other peoples faith?.......can you honestly say that you know how much a person is allowed to have??..if i'm not mistaken, it's in the constitution.....something about religious freedom or something......selective shaming and bullying corrupts a democracy....freedom of press, speech and religion give it strength. Not to mention reason and the god given compassion we as humans have a right and responsibility to practice. Once again, the gay community feels the need to be sore winners. Is it so difficult to allow this women her religion?...or must we destroy her in order for here to betray her faith. No matter how we judge its truth. The rights we have all fought for, mean nothing, if we deny her hers.

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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Following the laws of Kentucky:



Yes, much like the Jim Crow laws in the Racist South... the bigotry continues.  
And most of the anti gay laws have been overturned as they are UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
You remember the US Constitution don't you??? It was something the Founding Fathers
conceived to protect the rights of US Citizens.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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BULLSHIT BUMBLER....and you know it.  She is not in jail for being a religious person,
she's n jail for failing to comply with the law and using her position to deny equal
rights...she has no right to do that, PERIOD!!!! Forcing her religious beliefs on others
is not in her job description.  Don't like the law, then quit your job and find something else.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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BULLSHIT BUMBLER....and you know it.  She is not in jail for being a religious person,
she's n jail for failing to comply with the law and using her position to deny equal
rights...she has no right to do that, PERIOD!!!! Forcing her religious beliefs on others
is not in her job description.  Don't like the law, then quit your job and find something else.

Right!

She's just one more Conservative "VICTIM" in search of ATTENTION!

Again... Does a Mormon have the right to deny everyone a pistol permit because of their religious
views on non violence???  Or does this 'outrage' only apply to Christian VICTIMS?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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BULLSHIT BUMBLER....and you know it.  She is not in jail for being a religious person,
she's n jail for failing to comply with the law and using her position to deny equal
rights...she has no right to do that, PERIOD!!!! Forcing her religious beliefs on others
is not in her job description.  Don't like the law, then quit your job and find something else.




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HB 279 (2013)

Passed on March 27 2013

AN ACT relating to construction of the law.

Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Kentucky:

SECTION 1.   A NEW SECTION OF KRS CHAPTER 446 IS CREATED TO READ AS FOLLOWS:

Government shall not substantially burden a person’s freedom of religion. The right to act or refuse to act in a manner motivated by a sincerely held religious belief may not be substantially burdened unless the government proves by clear and convincing evidence that it has a compelling governmental interest in infringing the specific act or refusal to act and has used the least restrictive means to further that interest. A “burden” shall include indirect burdens such as withholding benefits, assessing penalties, or an exclusion from programs or access to facilities.


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the way i see it....she's not forcing her belief on ANYONE.

she is not DENYING same sex couples a marriage license.

she just won't authorize them.

honestly....no big deal!

licensing marriages is a very small part of her job.

again.....no big deal....but, of course, gov almighty has to make a 'strong armed', intimidating statement....as usual.

just another, not needed, division in the country.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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the way i see it....she's not forcing her belief on ANYONE.

she is not DENYING same sex couples a marriage license.

she just won't authorize them.

honestly....no big deal!

licensing marriages is a very small part of her job.

again.....no big deal....but, of course, gov almighty has to make a 'strong armed', intimidating statement....as usual.

just another, not needed, division in the country.

Have you watched anything????  She is DENYING TO ISSUE THE LICENSE!!!! DUH!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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That's KENTUCKY REVISED STATUES....she's violating FEDERAL LAW!!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from Box A Rox
If you aren't willing to follow the law, then don't run for office or resign if it conflicts with your personal views.

Similar to those who refuse to enforce the SAFE ACT.  Your job isn't to legislate it's to enforces the law.
If it conflicts with your personal views, resign.


now that's funny coming from you.....so if you work for catholic charities or the like that refuses to have 'birth control' in their
health insurance policy then you should quit and find a company that covers it.....

just saying, if a company conflicts with your personal views,,,,then resign.......

you have this belief that no one may think for themselves and....OMG if they find like minded people and work/play etc with them
and a 'progressive liberal' finds it disagreeable, then that group of people become a target.....you're no different than a
conservative....you just have a different label and like to play dress up and take what others have or destroy what they
have made because it's not yours and you think they have 'more than their fair share' just because you say so......BULLY



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Have you watched anything????  She is DENYING TO ISSUE THE LICENSE!!!! DUH!!!!


She's not DENYING the license.  She isn't issuing them in her county.  There are 120 other counties in Kentucky that issue marriage licenses.  duh!!!


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That's KENTUCKY REVISED STATUES....she's violating FEDERAL LAW!!!!!


She isn't violating FEDERAL LAW, she is violating a 5-4 COURT DECISION as to the interpretation of the 14th amendment. She is being held in contempt of court, she isn't charged with violating a FEDERAL LAW.


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Right!

She's just one more Conservative "VICTIM" in search of ATTENTION!

Again... Does a Mormon have the right to deny everyone a pistol permit because of their religious
views on non violence???  Or does this 'outrage' only apply to Christian VICTIMS?


Does a clerk have the right to deny a Mormon a marriage license for multiple wives?  


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