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This goes on every day in buses across the country.

I have seen much worse than this many times.

I worked for a school bus transportation provider, that transported handicapped/disabled/autistic or other learning disabled preschoolers,  for over a decade.

I have actually been on buses loaded with kids aged 2 through 4 and heard this type of language and defiant kids.

Bus drivers and monitors are taught to diffuse the situation, not escalate it with threats or calling the police.

The Pupil Transportation Safety Institute has classes regularly for dealing with bad behavior and physical contact.

Violence Prevention
Price of course: $175.00

Topics Will Include

    Specific strategies to prevent a bad behavior from escalating into a violent behavior
    Behavioral strategies that demonstrate a positive attitude
    How good relationships affect student behavior
    What to do when negative behavior levels increase
    Understanding both non-verbal communication and non-verbal behavior
    Controlling the escalation of behavior using effective verbal interventions
    Using silence to achieve compliance

When All Else Fails

    How to deal with a physical attack
    Strategies that will not develop into a law suit
    Strategies for remaining calm in a physically or verbally abusive incident
    Dealing with the student's return to the bus

NY State has some of the toughest requirements for drivers and bus monitors.

The NY State 19a program requirements demand multiple yearly testing of drivers and monitors, refresher courses and even physical performance testing.

DOT also closely watches each and every bus and does a complete inspection of every vehicle, every 6 months.

Sure the job is frustrating for drivers and monitors, but the job is to keep the children safe during transport, not to win arguments, or demand obedience.

Still, I know that most drivers are sad when the school year ends and they get new kids on their routes.

Fingerprints, background checks, driving abstract, names ran through the child abuse registry and the sex offender registry, complete yearly physicals and drug testing, written tests, regular defensive driving classes, fire drills and lots of other rules, tests and procedures, are all required to bring your child to school.

You call the police for crimes or accidents, not for kids throwing a tantrum.

These kids need a hand getting started in their lives, not handcuffs.

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They have received a hand in getting started, and that 5-7 year old's life is not going to get any better.

That language disrespect and attitude is being taught at home, and nothing the bus drive can do will change that.

I may have done the same thing in their shoes., but the RPD would have broken his arm instead of sitting him down in the grass.
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Hell....if I ever acted like that on the school bus....or in school....I would have been petrified that they would call my parents!!

I was more concerned with my parents reaction...not the school administrators OR the cops!!!

different world we live in these days!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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Yup a different world , a sad one and a scary one : (
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Same here, my father would have nearly beat me dead if I disrespected an elder that way, and I might still be grounded at 47.
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Society reaps what it sows...the out of control kids is a response to the out of control society.  The adults created an oppressive and morally bankrupt society.  As the government tightens the screws, children respond with defiance.

I've had a 7 year old niece ask my why the school "monitors" won't let her hold her 7 year old friends hand while playing on the playground.  I had a 6 year old nephew ask me why the "monitor" won't let him use twigs as guns to play hunting on the playground.  I told them - because most adults are insane.  

Kids can't be kids because adults are f**king paranoid control freaks that want to control every child's imagination and innocent playful behaviors.  And we wonder why adolescents and young adults endulge in antisocial behaviors.  Ten years of schooling and behavior control, antisocial behavior is the only thing that gives them a sense that they have free will.

If the 60's cultural revolution was a rebellion against what was thought to be the oppressive society of the 40's and 50's.  I can only imagine the cultural rebellion against the oppression created by government institutions like the NSA, the TSA, the militarized police, and the rest of the government apparatuses used to spy on, control and oppress society.


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it all begins at home......and it's too bad there is no control like past generations....fear of God and most of all fear of your parents...

.or was it the principal or Mother Superior.....Let us pray is changes...
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it all begins at home......and it's too bad there is no control like past generations....fear of God and most of all fear of your parents...

.or was it the principal or Mother Superior.....Let us pray is changes...


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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it all begins at home......and it's too bad there is no control like past generations....fear of God and most of all fear of your parents...


...unfortunately society(public schools, entertainment, media) teaches there is no God(only in your home and church), and parents can only raise their children in accordance to government guidelines....and most all they are taught to obey the government as the ultimate authority - not their God or their parents.  If your 14 year old gets pregnant, parental consent is not required for an abortion.  If your son wants to wear rosaries in school - can't - no religion in school.  If you don't like the way your parents discipline you - call CPS.  You want to teach you kids abstinence, the school will teach them how to use birth control and where to get it.  If you live in NYC, you can be young and black walking down the street and a cop can stop you for any reason and frisk you.  How would you respond to that?

It begins at home, but it doesn't end there.  When we live in a society where both parents are working and only see their children for 3 hours during the week and on weekends, or working single mothers raising children - who's raising the children?  For the most part it is school and TV.

My guess is, you grew up on a two parent home and your mother stayed home and raised the children for the most part.  That is impossible for the majority of Americans.  If the nuclear family return to the days of old where only one parent worked, the economy would collapse.  That would mean millions of women out of the workforce and that means they wouldn't be taxed on their labor and reduce the household income.  Everybody is on the hamster wheel - schools and day cares raise the children in America.




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It begins at home, but it doesn't end there.  When we live in a society where both parents are working and only see their children for 3 hours during the week and on weekends, or working single mothers raising children - who's raising the children?  For the most part it is school and TV.

My guess is, you grew up on a two parent home and your mother stayed home and raised the children for the most part. That is impossible for the majority of Americans.  If the nuclear family return to the days of old where only one parent worked, the economy would collapse.  That would mean millions of women out of the workforce and that means they wouldn't be taxed on their labor and reduce the household income.  Everybody is on the hamster wheel - schools and day cares raise the children in America.


I very much agree that the problem with a lot of kids these day is this lost opportunity of the parents to spend quality time with their children and to raise them with respect and dignity. Some families along with the majority of society deem it more important to have material things in life (new cars, fancy vacations, and big lavish homes with immaculate lawns) these things cost more money than can be had on the average salary, making it impossible for the typical family to "survive" with just one parent working.

My wife and I made the conscious decision 13 years ago that she would stay home with the kids, but that means we don't live in a McMansion we only buy new cars when they are "needed" and we do not take lavish vacations to exotic ports of call. Even with these life choices my kids have not a need in the world and typically get everything they want (with in reason) I also think my kids are the better for it. The have a sense of what things cost and understand that money does not grow on trees. Add to that the reports I get from teachers and other adults that they wish more of their students were as respectful and well mannered as my children. My kids have been offered extra responsibilities and recognition for their outstanding achievements and it makes me proud to call them my children, and I believe it all due to the attention they were given as they developed.

We have lots of friends who do the double paycheck daycare arrangement and for the most part I see them as great parents and their children are reasonable good, but their children seem to be missing some connection to their parents and sometimes seem a quick to get angry and frustrated when they are not given their way. Sure those kids have been all over the country, but I don't want to sit down in a nice restaurant with them anytime soon.

I also want to negate the idea that the lack of formal religion is the culprit to this kids behavior, my children have not been raise going to church. We have instead instilled in them a strong sense of right and wrong, and we do this by talking to them, because the XBOX Instagram and Facebook are not going to teach them these things.

I fully understand that not all family can afford to do this, and it is sad because they grow up so fast and missing out on these years is something you can never get back.

Sorry for my rambling but I see this disrespect often and it is very unsettling to think these are our future leaders.

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Society reaps what it sows...the out of control kids is a response to the out of control society.  The adults created an oppressive and morally bankrupt society.  As the government tightens the screws, children respond with defiance.

I've had a 7 year old niece ask my why the school "monitors" won't let her hold her 7 year old friends hand while playing on the playground.  I had a 6 year old nephew ask me why the "monitor" won't let him use twigs as guns to play hunting on the playground.  I told them - because most adults are insane.  

Kids can't be kids because adults are f**king paranoid control freaks that want to control every child's imagination and innocent playful behaviors.  And we wonder why adolescents and young adults endulge in antisocial behaviors.  Ten years of schooling and behavior control, antisocial behavior is the only thing that gives them a sense that they have free will.

If the 60's cultural revolution was a rebellion against what was thought to be the oppressive society of the 40's and 50's.  I can only imagine the cultural rebellion against the oppression created by government institutions like the NSA, the TSA, the militarized police, and the rest of the government apparatuses used to spy on, control and oppress society.



THIS COULDN'T BE ANY TRUER.....gotta love utopia and how it destroys the human psyche/freedom/spirit/mind

people want unions because they 'can't get satisfaction'...when in all actuality the public school systems make cogs instead
of strong humans that are proud to be who they are and fight for what they believe is their 'fair share'....instead we have
a society pointing fingers at everyone around them saying "they have to much of MY fair share, so they must be made to
give me some of theirs." "they scare me, so someone needs to do something about their behavior." "I'm being bullied and
I'm afraid to kick their a$$ because then I would get into trouble for sticking up for myself"

there is something insidiously wrong with us and we better fix it before a giant entity (government) swoops in to remove
everything that makes life worth living....then we'll call it panacea....


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Wonder how many of these kids come from single parent households and there is no father in sight.  Second and third generation welfare recipients and their moms started having them at 14 and 15 years old.  Just wondering.


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