But only spends under $800,000 for clean up.

And the homeowners in the city have to pay for the demolition of that DSS building he owns?    


Is he really that financially strapped that he can't pay for his own demo?   The mayor owes the taxpayers of the city an explanation.


Yeah, I know, the rest is supposed to be used for "economic development"   Can anyone, particularly those who support the mayor and want to see him get re-elected, list what the homeowners, the actual taxpayers, in the city have gotten in return for all their money.

True, the $6.8 million isn't from the city bank account, but it still comes from the pockets of the taxpayers who live in the city, and who pay the highest taxes around!


To a billionaire who has many lavish estates all over the place, why should he even get one penny of taxpayer money.  McCarthy and Gillen's cronies get another, and the taxpayers lose again.

I should have kept a score card

if it was anyone of us taxpayers...we would pay for demolition....it's absurd that millionaires "rape" honest working people out of something they are

responsible for....something like welfare....don't ya think??

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if it was anyone of us taxpayers...we would pay for demolition....it's absurd that millionaires "rape" honest working people out of something they are

responsible for....something like welfare....don't ya think??

And the story in the Gazette which my post above references, is ONLY ONE item where the billionaire Galesi got millions from the taxpayers.   It was only the "brownfield clean-up"

The $6.8 does NOT include all the millions he got for other properties right in downtown and doesn't reflect the HUGE tax exemption Galesi gets by only having to pay a pilot worth pennies on the dollar.


For sure Galesi will be using some of the money from the taxpayers to give HUGE political contributions to McCarthy, etc, just to make sure McCarthy steals more from the taxpayers to give to Galesi

And may the circle go unbroken.

http://www.timesunion.com/tupl.....s-from-5-6150479.php

The developers of the $450 million Rivers Casino and Resort at Mohawk Harbor won the coveted recommendation for a New York state gaming license in part on the promises of millions of dollars in new tax revenue that will flow into the struggling city.

But Rotterdam-based developer Galesi Group pays little in taxes on nine properties that make up the former American Locomotive plant because they've all been classified as tax-exempt through the Schenectady County Metroplex Development Authority, according to property records.

And when Galesi purchased the roughly 53 acres of land that borders the Mohawk River in April 2010 from a private company, it paid $500,000 — when the land was assessed at $11.3 million, according to a Times Union analysis of the data. An undated economic analysis report Metroplex did on the ALCO site estimated that it would cost $8 million to buy the property.

David Buicko, Galesi Group's Chief Operating Officer, said he understands it looks like he got a great deal on the property. ALCO had already been gifted $4 million for cleanup before the Galesi purchase as well. But Buicko said his company has sunk more than $10 million into the site, which includes remediation of 150 years worth of industrial contamination, as well as removing old railroad lines and antiquated water and sewer systems.

"This ranks up there with the top of projects — in terms of complexity, in terms of cost, in terms of scope — that we've ever experienced," Buicko said. "The reason we did it is because of our commitment to the Capital Region and our commitment to Schenectady."

Galesi does make a $40,000 payment in lieu of taxes each year since taking over the former ALCO properties in 2010. The deal has been listed in Metroplex's yearly round up of PILOTS as "Alco site in Schenectady. Vacant land brownfield remediation." But it's been a largely quiet deal, which is typical for PILOT agreements as the authority doesn't need an official vote from the city or school district to negotiate such terms.

"The problem is it's public funds they're using and I don't see any accountability for it," said Schenectady City Councilman Vincent Riggi, one of the few
non-Democrats elected to city or county government.

According to a review of Metroplex meeting minutes, the PILOT was renewed in 2012 for two years, in 2014 for one year, and again for another year recently. In the city's assessment records, the term year on the exemption is listed as "0" meaning there is no limit to when the exemption ends.

David Buicko is a very nice person and a great dinner-time conversationalist.  His company has done a wonderful job revitalizing properties in the Capital District. I can't wait to see the completed Mohawk Harbor project and the other projects yet to be announced.

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and antiquated water and sewer systems.

the water goes up and the water goes down.....like I said before...water 'rent' usage will go throughout the county to lick their butts....

show me the $$$ trail.....

Only if the poor of Schenectady would get off their lazy asses and make some change.  Let's look how differently the poor are treated versus the ultra wealthy, shall we?

The poor business owners:

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State and federal laws ban the sale of loose cigarettes, but enforcement is virtually nonexistent, said McCarthy.

The mayor lamented the sale of loose cigarettes, which he said is widespread among the problem neighborhood stores his administration is targeting because of reports of illegal activity. McCarthy said the city recorded nearly 3,500 calls for service at those businesses in the past two years.

He said peddling loosies attracts underage kids "trying to be cool" and takes advantage of poor people who become addicted to cigarettes they can't afford.

"You draw in a different clientele and support an image and marketing I don't want, and that is a problem," McCarthy said.

If it passes, the new law would give the police department the power to enforce the ban on sale of single cigarettes. He acknowledged that the police department is already busy and that "We're hoping for a high level of compliance very quickly."

...and the ultra wealthy:

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Galesi does make a $40,000 payment in lieu of taxes each year since taking over the former ALCO properties in 2010. The deal has been listed in Metroplex's yearly round up of PILOTS as "Alco site in Schenectady. Vacant land brownfield remediation." But it's been a largely quiet deal, which is typical for PILOT agreements as the authority doesn't need an official vote from the city or school district to negotiate such terms.

"The problem is it's public funds they're using and I don't see any accountability for it," said Schenectady City Councilman Vincent Riggi, one of the few
non-Democrats elected to city or county government.

According to a review of Metroplex meeting minutes, the PILOT was renewed in 2012 for two years, in 2014 for one year, and again for another year recently. In the city's assessment records, the term year on the exemption is listed as "0" meaning there is no limit to when the exemption ends.

If the poor neighborhoods could just politically organize, they could give the bodega shop owners a PILOT on their property to free up money for development in their neighborhoods.  Until they organize politically and compete with that Galesi money, Galesi is going to get all the money, control the political parties, and the lazy poor people will just have to live with the consequences of their inaction and laziness.  Or...The lazy poor can convince the Galesi Group to develop bodegas in the neighborhoods.

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" But it's been a largely quiet deal, which is typical for PILOT agreements as the authority doesn't need an official vote from the city or school district to negotiate such terms.

I don't understand why more people don't vote.  If there was just higher voter turnout, at least the citizens of Schenectady would have an elected representative that can watch their constituents money be stolen and given to the wealthy without being able to do anything about it.  Because as that quote above show, PILOTS are little gifts granted by unelected bureaucrats.  Vote your little hearts out.  Nothin will change.

Quoted from CICERO

Only if the poor of Schenectady would get off their lazy asses and make some change.  Let's look how differently the poor are treated versus the ultra wealthy, shall we?

The poor business owners:


...and the ultra wealthy:



If the poor neighborhoods could just politically organize, they could give the bodega shop owners a PILOT on their property to free up money for development in their neighborhoods.  Until they organize politically and compete with that Galesi money, Galesi is going to get all the money, control the political parties, and the lazy poor people will just have to live with the consequences of their inaction and laziness.  Or...The lazy poor can convince the Galesi Group to develop bodegas in the neighborhoods.

YUP!

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

David Buicko is a very nice person and a great dinner-time conversationalist.  His company has done a wonderful job revitalizing properties in the Capital District. I can't wait to see the completed Mohawk Harbor project and the other projects yet to be announced.

There's DV again CHEERING and SHAKING the POM POMs on this chest. Shaking the pom poms and shaking that little hidden weeny.


You won't address the FACT that homeowners are paying for all these project.   Naturally people who don't pay taxes don't care.

And what has Buicko done for the tax base, the property values, the home sales and home sale prices, the tax bills of the city homeowners?    DV won't answer that.

Buicko does not live IN the city, he doesn't even want anything to with living in the County either!    

What has the cowardly lying chicken sh*t he/she troll ever done for Schenectady?   Does he/she live in the city?  

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What has the cowardly lying chicken sh*t he/she troll ever done for Schenectady?   Does he/she live in the city?  

Where are you feeding the kids in the park in the summer?   Where are you at Concern for the Hungry collecting food, sorting, packing boxes, delivering and/or handing out baskets for Thanksgiving?  When have you volunteered at the City Mission or Salvation Army or food pantries?  Are you leaving your two mommies for a week to take care of the homeless families while they sleep?

I have done research to insure that the people know how the city leaders are STEALING from them big time.   You know, the FACT, the TRUTH, the REALITY that the typical families in the city have incomes of $40,000 or less and they are paying their own taxes PLUS the taxes of the millionaires and billionaires.

Who do you think did tons of research, working with some others, to insure that the people of the city are aware of the government officials who are tax deadbeats, including the Mary D'A-G who was ILLEGALLY a star double dipper yet she was appointed to the board of assessment to rule on people who for whatever (incorrect) reason were denied ONE STAR exemption?   How about even when people produce sales of 100 houses with sale prices 30% below assessed value, Mary STILL won't vote to reduce the assessments of grievants--you see, that would be an admission that home values are falling and when values fall, people don't want to buy houses and thus she will lose income.  CONFLICT OF INTEREST, ETHICS VIOLATION!

How about now, just because a city councilman and also Mary D'A-G (with her Metroplex architect husband), are tax delinquent, suddenly Queen Leesa on the council all of a sudden wants to help them out and lower tax penalties.

How about working and researching to try to put a stop to all the corruption between the city/co/plex leaders, all the favoritism to their rich political cronies in exchange for kickbacks?

How about, DV, point out the FACT, the TRUTH, the REALITY, that every other community around here routinely declares snow emergencies, AND their taxes are lower AND their home values are increasing.   But in Schenectady, no snow emergencies, taxes increasing, and home values falling.  You don't see a problem with this?

Just think, if the city stopped giving the taxpayers' money to their rich downtown political cronies, and instead spend the money to enforce the trash/recyle preparation rules the city would raise revenue AND the city streets would be cleaner.   But nope, they don't bother, the mayor claims "there's no money" so trash sits all over, sometimes days ahead of collection day, causing a filthy dirty city.   Just think if the city spend money on snow emergencies.   Just think if the city spent the taxpayers' money fixing the roads.  Just think if the city stopped making the homeowners pay the taxes of the rich.  Just think if the mayor forced his police chief to live IN the city AND pay taxes AND send any children to the government schools.  Just think IF the mayor made the billionaire pay for a demolition of his own building instead of sticking the lower income homeowners with the bill.

Just think how lower the taxes could be which would probably cause home values to rise, just like in ALL other communities around here the taxes are lower AND the home values are not only higher, but they are regularly increasing.


How about it DV, tell us what the taxpayers in the city received IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS in return for paying the highest taxes around AND having their home values fall massively.   Well???????   You can't cite one thing that the homeowners are getting.

You're so cheap you won't even donate to Proctors!  Sure, your mommies might pay for a ticket with prices subsidized by the taxpayers, so you can attend a show, but you don't even donate.  Even your two mommies have to include your name on THEIR donation to a church in the city that you avoid going to because MP has become so gravely dangerous.

By the way, the TU had even a better story than the Gazette.


Does everyone realize that while that Buicko (who REFUSES to live IN the city and pay the city's taxes) brags that they spent some $12 million but the FACT is that they have received MORE THAN THAT in welfare from the taxpayers via the multi-million dollar government handouts and the tax exemptions.  

Yep, for sure, the billionaire is going to lavish tons of kickbacks to McCarthy this fall.

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Where are you feeding the kids in the park in the summer?   Where are you at Concern for the Hungry collecting food, sorting, packing boxes, delivering and/or handing out baskets for Thanksgiving?  When have you volunteered at the City Mission or Salvation Army or food pantries?  Are you leaving your two mommies for a week to take care of the homeless families while they sleep?

I have done research to insure that the people know how the city leaders are STEALING from them big time.   You know, the FACT, the TRUTH, the REALITY that the typical families in the city have incomes of $40,000 or less and they are paying their own taxes PLUS the taxes of the millionaires and billionaires.

Who do you think did tons of research, working with some others, to insure that the people of the city are aware of the government officials who are tax deadbeats, including the Mary D'A-G who was ILLEGALLY a star double dipper yet she was appointed to the board of assessment to rule on people who for whatever (incorrect) reason were denied ONE STAR exemption?   How about even when people produce sales of 100 houses with sale prices 30% below assessed value, Mary STILL won't vote to reduce the assessments of grievants--you see, that would be an admission that home values are falling and when values fall, people don't want to buy houses and thus she will lose income.  CONFLICT OF INTEREST, ETHICS VIOLATION!

How about now, just because a city councilman and also Mary D'A-G (with her Metroplex architect husband), are tax delinquent, suddenly Queen Leesa on the council all of a sudden wants to help them out and lower tax penalties.

How about working and researching to try to put a stop to all the corruption between the city/co/plex leaders, all the favoritism to their rich political cronies in exchange for kickbacks?

How about, DV, point out the FACT, the TRUTH, the REALITY, that every other community around here routinely declares snow emergencies, AND their taxes are lower AND their home values are increasing.   But in Schenectady, no snow emergencies, taxes increasing, and home values falling.  You don't see a problem with this?

Just think, if the city stopped giving the taxpayers' money to their rich downtown political cronies, and instead spend the money to enforce the trash/recyle preparation rules the city would raise revenue AND the city streets would be cleaner.   But nope, they don't bother, the mayor claims "there's no money" so trash sits all over, sometimes days ahead of collection day, causing a filthy dirty city.   Just think if the city spend money on snow emergencies.   Just think if the city spent the taxpayers' money fixing the roads.  Just think if the city stopped making the homeowners pay the taxes of the rich.  Just think if the mayor forced his police chief to live IN the city AND pay taxes AND send any children to the government schools.  Just think IF the mayor made the billionaire pay for a demolition of his own building instead of sticking the lower income homeowners with the bill.

Just think how lower the taxes could be which would probably cause home values to rise, just like in ALL other communities around here the taxes are lower AND the home values are not only higher, but they are regularly increasing.


How about it DV, tell us what the taxpayers in the city received IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS in return for paying the highest taxes around AND having their home values fall massively.   Well???????   You can't cite one thing that the homeowners are getting.

You're so cheap you won't even donate to Proctors!  Sure, your mommies might pay for a ticket with prices subsidized by the taxpayers, so you can attend a show, but you don't even donate.  Even your two mommies have to include your name on THEIR donation to a church in the city that you avoid going to because MP has become so gravely dangerous.

So the only thing that you have done with your pathetic life is to snivel and cry like a baby troll and hide behind your usernames like a boring, boorish chicken liar.