Alva,I don't have time to go back and forth with you over my inconsistencies,ppl have lost their lives and you worried about what I said or didn't say,if your house burnt down would you want ppl to have compassion,or would you want ppl to make a mockery of your misfortune.
I have plenty of compassion for the folks who lived there. Believe me my heart goes out to them. (did you live there? just curious, because if you did if there's anything I can do to help let me know. I'm very serious.)
What I do object to is the politicizing of it though. There shouldn't be any finger pointing, calls for resignations or any other such nonsense until ALL the facts are known. To some folks this is just an opportunity to jump on the current administration, and some of the folks who post such rot should be ashamed of themselves. Is their hatred for beady-eyed weasel Gary so bad that they will jump to conclusions without waiting for the facts? That's shameful and disgusting.
And once again, if you are one of the unfortunate folks who lost everything please contact me. I don't have much but I am willing to help in any way I can.
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
More speculation and another rumor concerning the cause. Had dinner today with someone who mentioned the word arson. Just tossing that out there with all the other rumors and speculation, since I haven't seen it mentioned here, and it never really crossed my mind.
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
The residents of record have already been contacted by various insurance companies, services and lawyers. they start trying and reach you shortly after the firetrucks leave.
My only correction to your statement is that: The scumbag, parasite "personal injury" lawyers start trying to reach people as soon as the firetrucks leave the station enroute to the fire, At the end of the process, the only ones who benefit financial are the lawyers. They couldn't care less about the victims.
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More speculation and another rumor concerning the cause. Had dinner today with someone who mentioned the word arson. Just tossing that out there with all the other rumors and speculation, since I haven't seen it mentioned here, and it never really crossed my mind.
Whether a deliberate act by someone or unintended carelessness by a tenant or anything in between, eventually (hopefully) the cause will be determined.
However I remember Popolizio and his place on Eastern Ave and McClellan, who had to shell money out of their pockets? Four years have passed, why hasn't the city put a lien on his house?
Unless the city is hiding something, the city should be forthcoming and inform the public what was found in the inspection the day before. Mayor seems to say that's part of a criminal investigation. If it's that serious, then why wasn't the building condemned immediately following inspection? So many nice houses in the city that are in great condition but owned by the city (because the owners couldn't afford to pay for all that corporate welfare), people could have been taken to those houses if Jay St was so bad that a failed inspection is criminal.
Also, why can't the mayor inform the taxpayers if they are paying for the demo, that is, will this be another insurance situation like Popolizo's. Here is what the city requires:
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The Landlord Registration is an application form that requires verified owner information, a declared property agent (if the owner does not live in Schenectady County), a current insurance declaration or bond for the property, and a notary signature to verify the information presented.
And also
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Buildings with 10 or more rental units. [Added 4-8-2013 by Ord. No. 2013-14]
(1) The owner of a building with 10 or more rental units may choose to apply for a rental certificate which shall be valid for 12 months from the date of issuance. Said application shall be on forms created by the office of the Building Inspector and shall request whatever information is deemed necessary. Upon submission of said application, the applicant shall also provide proof that a bond in the sum of $75,000 has been filed with the Finance Department. This bond is conditioned to indemnify and save harmless the City against all forms of damage and losses which may result from a fire or other catastrophic loss at the building which could cause the City to demolish or maintain the building. The bond requirement will be waived if the owner produces proof of at least $75,000 in fire insurance and names the City of Schenectady as a certificate holder on said policy. Said policy of insurance shall remain in full force and effect for the full period specified in the rental certificate.
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What are the millionaires downtown doing? Think of the Hampton Inn down there, they pay a small fraction of what their tax bill would be, actually the tenants of the burned out building, by paying rent they are paying the Hampton Inn's taxes, you'd think the Hampton would make rooms available for the tenants, something better than sleeping on some little folded up piece of canvas with probably a two inch thick mattress and to provide them privacy. How about the non-taxpaying lavish Key Hall feeding them every day in return for the money the tenants shelled out to cover the property taxes? As serious as this was, how about giving the people a break mentally for a couple hours such as Galesi could let them go see a movie or two at his tax exempt theater in return for the tenant paying towards Galesi's taxes on that building. Do you think that in return for the taxpayers lavishing a brand new building on Marcella, and giving him a humongous tax break, could he perhaps donate appliances to the people when then find a new place? How about the greedy King Phillip announcing that perhaps 10% of all money taken in from a month's worth of shows will be donated to these people?
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Whether a deliberate act by someone or unintended carelessness by a tenant or anything in between, eventually (hopefully) the cause will be determined.
However I remember Popolizio and his place on Eastern Ave and McClellan, who had to shell money out of their pockets? Four years have passed, why hasn't the city put a lien on his house?
Unless the city is hiding something, the city should be forthcoming and inform the public what was found in the inspection the day before. Mayor seems to say that's part of a criminal investigation. If it's that serious, then why wasn't the building condemned immediately following inspection? So many nice houses in the city that are in great condition but owned by the city (because the owners couldn't afford to pay for all that corporate welfare), people could have been taken to those houses if Jay St was so bad that a failed inspection is criminal.
Also, why can't the mayor inform the taxpayers if they are paying for the demo, that is, will this be another insurance situation like Popolizo's. Here is what the city requires:
And also
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What are the millionaires downtown doing? Think of the Hampton Inn down there, they pay a small fraction of what their tax bill would be, actually the tenants of the burned out building, by paying rent they are paying the Hampton Inn's taxes, you'd think the Hampton would make rooms available for the tenants, something better than sleeping on some little folded up piece of canvas with probably a two inch thick mattress and to provide them privacy. How about the non-taxpaying lavish Key Hall feeding them every day in return for the money the tenants shelled out to cover the property taxes? As serious as this was, how about giving the people a break mentally for a couple hours such as Galesi could let them go see a movie or two at his tax exempt theater in return for the tenant paying towards Galesi's taxes on that building. Do you think that in return for the taxpayers lavishing a brand new building on Marcella, and giving him a humongous tax break, could he perhaps donate appliances to the people when then find a new place? How about the greedy King Phillip announcing that perhaps 10% of all money taken in from a month's worth of shows will be donated to these people?
And of course, this post is exactly the kind of garbage I was referring to in a previous post. You're a shameless scumbag troll. Wait until ALL the facts are in. Then you can start pointing fingers. Frankly, IMO, you are cut from the same cloth as the beady-eyed weasel Mayor that you despise so much.
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
And of course, this post is exactly the kind of garbage I was referring to in a previous post. You're a shameless scumbag troll. Wait until ALL the facts are in. Then you can start pointing fingers. Frankly, IMO, you are cut from the same cloth as the beady-eyed weasel Mayor that you despise so much.
I saw his post as someone who would like to see the unfortunate get assistance that lost their, well, everything. What can be wrong with that???
I saw his post as someone who would like to see the unfortunate get assistance that lost their, well, everything. What can be wrong with that???
In most cases I'd agree with you, but knowing the troll's mindset, he takes any chance he gets to take a shot at the, as he likes to call them, "the Dems". That's what's wrong with that. The only thing that surprises me, is that he hasn't figured out some way to fit DV into the issue. When you try to place politics above tragedy, you are a scumbag slimy troll.
So if you want to jump on the "blame game" bandwagon before the truth is known, then be my guest. If it does turn out that the administration is in some way complicit in the matter, then I'll eat my words, swallow my pride, apologize to anyone I may have offended and join in and back anyone up who wants to storm City Hall with pitchforks. But until then, anyone who has a political axe to grind should just STFU in this thread.
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
was talking with a couple who lives downtown...they believe meth lab. ....that was their take on what they see going on down there. their thought....if it's a meth lab, they wouldn't be surprised if it was hushed up (if possible) because of the 'renaissance'. thought i'd pass along another 'speculation'.
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Schenectady: Jay Street fire case is a 'criminal investigation' By Dartunorro Clark Updated 1:48 pm, Monday, March 16, 2015
SCHENECTADY - Schenectady Corporation Counsel says probe of the fire that destroyed two Jay Street apartment buildings and killed at least four people is a criminal investigation.
The city attorney's office confirmed the criminal probe in rejecting a Freedom of Information Law request for the Times Union.
Authorities are now focusing attention on the second building destroyed by fire on March 6 as they search for remains of more victims and clues about what caused two Jay Street apartment buildings to burn.
Police spokesman Lt. Mark McCracken said investigators have not ruled out the possibility of finding bodies inside 100-102 Jay St.
The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and city firefighters have spent the last 10 days searching for victims with their search primarily focused on 104 Jay St.
So far, four bodies have been found since fire tore through the structures on March 6.
As they have been fore the last 10 days, federal agents and firefighters were back at the buildings Monday morning, sifting through the charred structures as they hunt for clues about the cause.
Schenectady police have confirmed that four people died in the early-morning blaze. The first two victims discovered -Harry Simpson, 59, and Jermaine Allen, 37 - were identified last week. Two others were found on Saturday but so far police have not disclosed their identities. Medical examiners are identifying the victims.
Investigators have not commented on a cause for the fire.
McCracken said he expects crews to begin the process of tearing down both buildings later this week.
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
Even if it is a criminal act that caused the fire, the question remains, WHY did the city code people approve the building in the inspection less than 24 hours prior to the fire??????????
Why is the city keeping the reason for that such a huge secret?
And what about the mandate for insurance with the city being listed on the policy??? Why won't the mayor publicly state the status of the insurance policy? Why is it such a big secret?
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Even if it is a criminal act that caused the fire, the question remains, WHY did the city code people approve the building in the inspection less than 24 hours prior to the fire??????????
Why is the city keeping the reason for that such a huge secret?
And what about the mandate for insurance with the city being listed on the policy??? Why won't the mayor publicly state the status of the insurance policy? Why is it such a big secret?
Because it's a criminal investigation. Just like any other criminal investigation where details aren't released because they don't want to jeopardize the integrity of the criminal investigation. For a self-proclaimed "intelligent person", I don't understand why you don't get it. It's a criminal investigation.
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
UNBELIEVABLE...MC1 troll takes every opportunity to just rant about the Mayor and city even when there are tragedies like this that have now been determined to be criminal in nature. Are you (MC1) really that thick that you still just don't get it???? CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION!!!!
4 bodies...a real tragedy. Others displaced and loss of everything...more tragedy. A "criminal" activity...more tragedy!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Well I just saw a report on Channel 10, where the police spokesman said "It's not a criminal investigation, but we're treating it as a criminal investigation". Huh?? At this point I'm ditching this thread until I hear some actual facts. TTFN
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
UNBELIEVABLE...MC1 troll takes every opportunity to just rant about the Mayor and city even when there are tragedies like this that have now been determined to be criminal in nature. Are you (MC1) really that thick that you still just don't get it???? CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION!!!!
4 bodies...a real tragedy. Others displaced and loss of everything...more tragedy. A "criminal" activity...more tragedy!!!
And just where is it officially determined to be criminal? Where is the proof? Did someone deliberately start a fire?
At least based on what was stated by the city to the news last week, the alarms were not working. If that is the case then WHY did the city allow people to continue to live there! If anything, then it can be said that the CITY IS THE CRIMINAL for FAILING to immediately condemn the building IF it was not code compliant as a result of the inspection.
A broken window or some peeling paint is a code violation, albeit minor enough to not have to condemn a building and require that tenants leave. The lack of a working alarm/sprinkler system was known--during the inspection--to be putting the lives of the tenants in dire jeopardy and the city FAILED to condemn the building (even if only until repairs were made) and get tenants out. And because of the city allowing people to stay where there were no working alarms/sprinklers, people did indeed lose their lives.
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Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
I only heard last week that the alarms were outdated as of February. Did the city admit that they did not work at all? Outdated and not working are not the same thing.Perhaps the criminal investigation does it involve liability on the inspectors. Perhaps though, there has also been tampering post inspection.
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