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Does anyone have any information as to how many jobs will be earmarked for Sch'dy city/county residents?   I've read in the Gazette that the Mayor of Amsterdam has said the casino creation would help her residents with jobs.   And Saratoga casino has stated likely layoffs due to a decrease in revenue, up to 40% revenue loss, once the Rivers Casino opens.   Those folks may be looking for employment here.   And the Albany/Troy markets will no doubt be a source for job applicants to Rivers.   And one could expect (opinion) some transfers here from other Rivers Casinos, at the very least to get the new casino up and running.   So how many actual jobs will be created for/reserved for Schenectadians and how many will be filled by them?   One can only hope the project delivers the implied help for the local job force.
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Quoted from MOONGLOW
Does anyone have any information as to how many jobs will be earmarked for Sch'dy city/county residents?   ....



I have never seen anything in writing, no contract exists, apparently no agreement that Schenectady residents will be hired.

All I remember reading a while back is that people from surrounding locales would "get" some of the jobs.  I can't remember totally offhand, but I thought McCarthy might have been quoted in a newspaper about people from surrounding areas.

But if there is any earmark whatsoever set for Schenectady residents, you can bet your a** that those jobs will go to members of the friends and family club


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Please clarify under what legal position they can restrict the employment to Schdy....if they were public jobs like
police, etc., I can see it.  This is a PRIVATE VENTURE and they cannot set residency rqmts, that I am aware of.


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Please clarify under what legal position they can restrict the employment to Schdy....if they were public jobs like
police, etc., I can see it.  This is a PRIVATE VENTURE and they cannot set residency rqmts, that I am aware of.
There is no legal position we are aware of to guarantee Schenectady hires in part or exclusively for the casino.   Pardon if we gave that impression or you interpeted it that way.   All along it's been widely stated in the media by promotors of the venture that these job opportunities would be of benefit, at least in part, to Sch'dy residents.   Maybe this is not the case.   But the project has, in part, been sold to Sch'dy residents on this very point.   At least the ones we've discussed this with have understood it this way.   If you recall, part of the commissions decision was based in fact on the citys/countys unemployment rate.   Would it be such a bad thing that this venture, being in the city's backyard, if it favor qualified city residents?   Just an opinion here.   As usual time will tell of the projects success.
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for whatever and how many jobs will be available...count on PT with no benefits.....these will be grabbed by those seeking 2nd job....

not for this and never will be....the Casino that is..
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Does anyone have any information as to how many jobs will be earmarked for Sch'dy city/county residents?   I've read in the Gazette that the Mayor of Amsterdam has said the casino creation would help her residents with jobs.   And Saratoga casino has stated likely layoffs due to a decrease in revenue, up to 40% revenue loss, once the Rivers Casino opens.   Those folks may be looking for employment here.   And the Albany/Troy markets will no doubt be a source for job applicants to Rivers.   And one could expect (opinion) some transfers here from other Rivers Casinos, at the very least to get the new casino up and running.   So how many actual jobs will be created for/reserved for Schenectadians and how many will be filled by them?   One can only hope the project delivers the implied help for the local job force.


I would say that for the students in the Casino and Gaming Management program at SCCC- this is going to be a very sweet career opportunity.
http://www.sunysccc.edu/culinary/casinoandgamingmgt.htm

I think what the Amsterdam mayor means ist that  this is also an OPPORTUNITY  for her  citizens as well as the surrounding area.



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the schenectady chamber of commerce has/had a 6 week job prep/training program thru washington irving for residents seeking jobs in chamber related businesses....

wonder if that will be tweaked with a casino theme eventually?
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the schenectady chamber of commerce has/had a 6 week job prep/training program thru washington irving for residents seeking jobs in chamber related businesses....

wonder if that will be tweaked with a casino theme eventually?




Job prep?   Training program?   Is that Schenectady's version of an MBA?  


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It will be interesting to revisit this thread in 2 years to see just how well the job creation for city residents and overall employment targets were met.   Don't know if those numbers will be public knowledge especially if those employment goals were not met.   Who knows maybe the casino industry will have sunk to new lows, or highs dependant on your point of view.    
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Job prep?   Training program?   Is that Schenectady's version of an MBA?  


             LOL!!
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I would say that for the students in the Casino and Gaming Management program at SCCC- this is going to be a very sweet career opportunity.
http://www.sunysccc.edu/culinary/casinoandgamingmgt.htm

I think what the Amsterdam mayor means ist that  this is also an OPPORTUNITY  for her  citizens as well as the surrounding area.



still sh!tty paying jobs.....


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http://www1.salary.com/Casino-salaries.html

Those are the good paying jobs.

The dealers get nothing (basically).  Average salary nationally is under $15k I think.

I'm guessing they get by on tips - which of course could be under-reported and thus no tax benefit.  Even if the tips are through chips which is tracked & reported by management, when the casino surge goes away in 1-2 years, their total compensation will likely still be very low.

Perhaps I'm wrong and the over-supply of casinos in NYS and surrounding states and the declining household incomes will not prevent this casino from succeeding in the long run.  But the lack of entertainment because proctor's wanted a monopoly will likely curtain (and doom) the project over the next 10-20 years.

I do hope I'm wrong.  I'd like it if our fare city could actually get better without declaring bankruptcy, I just believe it is pretty unlikely.
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Would hazard a guess that the majority of "good paying jobs" will reside in the mid/upper white collar management positions.   Doubtful that the cleaners,floor clerks, etc. will be fortunate to share in that classification.   Would be interesting to see a DETAILED breakdown of each pay scale and it's position described per each position than a misleading overall average pay per position.    These averages lump in the higher end with low end pay scales and do not give an accurate portrayal of the mid to low end workers pay, where most likely the majority of the jobs will occur,at the lower end of the pay scale.   So a more precise/clarified breakdown would allow for a better understanding of just what the statement "good paying jobs" is all about.  
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'good paying jobs' is like saying 'affordable healthcare'

I don't understand how the masses keep buying that bullsh!t from the politicians and system managers....all the while enacting laws
that CREATE criminals....


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still sh!tty paying jobs.....


You seem to have more information than most about these jobs.
What would be YOUR idea of a good job. Doesn't  that depend on the persons age or domestic situation ?  Like I said before 2 people say 25 years old living in a household making 15 bucks an hour= 60 grand a year. They can afford most things that are out of reach for the typical homeowner.

Do you actually know anything about casino operations ? Maybe your thinking they need any army to pick up cigarette butts?
Take your job. Is that a job or a career ? Because jobs are easy to find- a career is not so easy.

While gaming regulations vary from state to state- most require 2 things-
A background check- for a gaming licence/badge.  your level of responsibility, will determine the depth of your background check.
A drug test- and some casinos now  are non smoking for employees too


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