Quoted from MOONGLOW

This particular proposal was broached at the Nov.2014 Stockade Assoc. meeting. by NYS officials in attendance.   You may contact the SA President for confirmation if you are so inclined.   One cannot make this up.  By the way we noticed you could not confirm with proof that this statement  was not without merit after your comment to the contrary.

i didn't say that your statement was "without merit."  I was simply asking that you to clarify or expand upon what you meant by "heard tell."  Quite honestly, you should have included the reference to the Nov. 2014 Stockade Association meeting when you started this thread.  That would have made it clear from the outset where you heard this.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

i didn't say that your statement was "without merit."  I was simply asking that you to clarify or expand upon what you meant by "heard tell."  Quite honestly, you should have included the reference to the Nov. 2014 Stockade Association meeting when you started this thread.  That would have made it clear from the outset where you heard this.

Gee, have you provided your reference to prove that the county taxes are lower than they were in the 1970's?   Well?   Ah, no answer of course.

Gee, have you provided you reference to prove that the city is improving, like reference to an increasing tax base, taxpayers actually receiving a return on their (forced) "investment" like maybe lower tax bills?  Perhaps increase in essential services?  Perhaps restoring ice skating to Central Park?  Perhaps increase in home values, increase in home sales, increase in home sale prices?

Your statements never have merit, proven by the fact that you NEVER provide any reference/evidence.

Of course, since you can never provide a reference, you won't respond, other than your usual yawn or spew nonsense babble.

The houses in question of being demolished (ooops, I took your comment about "raising" as demolishing) are the one's damaged by Hurricane Irene and as far as I know have been abandoned because their owners would not repair. Has nothing to do with that effing casino.

The reason the state was at the meeting was because of a "rising waters" project due to changing climates and change in the severity  of storms.

Elevating some of the houses was also in the discussion at some point and may still be an option.Worsening flooding
may certainly be a cause of concern due to the casino and harbor. Thanks Galesi for not caring about anyone but your self and the almightly one percent.

Mother&^@)!**.

What is your evidence that the Mohawk Harbor project will increase flooding?  

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

What is your evidence that the Mohawk Harbor project will increase flooding?  

the same way not letting the water levels down during the hurricane flooded the junction...all to save NYC....

it happens all the time....SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

What is your evidence that the Mohawk Harbor project will increase flooding?  

And where is YOUR evidence that it will not increase flooding?



Personally neither of us here our house are engineers so neither of us would state anything for certain of our own opinion.  It is a well known fact that flooding in the Stockade area happens almost every year.  It is also known that much worse flooding occurred--unrelated to the usual winter/spring flooding from all the ice jams--following the hurricanes.


Now, can you provide a link to the findings of the Army Corps of Engineers?   Has that been completed yet?  When?  

Quoted from mikechristine1

And where is YOUR evidence that it will not increase flooding?

Personally neither of us here our house are engineers so neither of us would state anything for certain of our own opinion.  It is a well known fact that flooding in the Stockade area happens almost every year.  It is also known that much worse flooding occurred--unrelated to the usual winter/spring flooding from all the ice jams--following the hurricanes.

Now, can you provide a link to the findings of the Army Corps of Engineers?   Has that been completed yet?  When?  

I am NOT the one making accusations or claims.  I have NOT stated an opinion one way or the other on the subject.  The author of this thread stated that the Mohawk Harbor project would increase flooding.  Others responded in such a way as to make others think the accusation or claim is proven or accepted fact.  Where is the evidence to back up that accusation or claim?

It is a well known fact  that spring flooding has been occurring along the Mohawk River since long before historical records were kept.  

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

What is your evidence that the Mohawk Harbor project will increase flooding?  

F=ma

Increased resistance to the flow will result in increased backup.

But I'm sure the laws of physics don't apply here.

Still haven't seen anyone post specific proof to back up the accusation that Mohawk Harbor would increase flooding.   Just a lot of tilting at windmills.

Based on the arguments made thus far, one could make the argument that the Stockade Neighborhood, itself, with all of its improvements and structures causes increased flooding along the river.  

Flooding is a big part of that area.....look at Jumpin Jacks.....they have flooded numerous times and have to pay for the clean up...

the Casino is just another way to rape citizens of their money...yes, it's their choice.....but it's like putting a piece of raw meat in front of a hungry lion...

they will take the bait......

What I want to see is a build up of retail...not gambling, saloons, and eating joints....there is nothing there that many wouldn't spend their money on...

government and anyone affiliated with it...is corrupt....except a very, very few....like Vince Riggi.....a man who has high morals and ethics and always thinks

of the people first.....VR for Mayor....VR for Governor.....certainly he would make the PEOPLE FIRST...

Regardless of the opinions of any boards, committees, engineers, etc. one question that has NEVER been answered yet is IF there is much increase in flooding, WHO will be responsible to pay for any clean-up?

Yeah, the taxpayers will be paying for clean up of Galesi land just like the taxpayers are being RAPED by the current city leaders by being FORCED--under threat of having their homes seized (for non payment of taxes)--to pay for the demolition of a building that he/his company owns!

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I am NOT the one making accusations or claims.  I have NOT stated an opinion one way or the other on the subject.  The author of this thread stated that the Mohawk Harbor project would increase flooding.  Others responded in such a way as to make others think the accusation or claim is proven or accepted fact.  Where is the evidence to back up that accusation or claim?

  

And a few years ago YOU stated that county taxes were lower than in the 1970's.   Where is YOUR evidence to back up YOUR CLAIM?


Oh that's right, you have none so you avoid responding to that request while at the same time you won't admit you are a LIAR

OMG mc1.....will you STOP!!!!!!

You claim to have all of the FACTS.....well.....the FACT IS.....no one will ever know...duh!

I thought you were smarter than that...guess not!!

EVERYTHING that is done in the city of Schenectady is done behind doors and in secret...duh!

All of the upcoming tv interviews with mcmayor and galesi will be all warm and fuzzy and no one will EVER know if it's the truth!

And the gazette will cheer on the same warm and fuzzy bullsh!t....duh!

will it flood....won't it flood.....no on knows that for a FACT except those behind those closed doors!

I can't believe you are even having this conversation when you SUPPOSEDLY know how the city works.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Still haven't seen anyone post specific proof to back up the accusation that Mohawk Harbor would increase flooding.   Just a lot of tilting at windmills.

Based on the arguments made thus far, one could make the argument that the Stockade Neighborhood, itself, with all of its improvements and structures causes increased flooding along the river.  

One can assume that once the developers/State can guarantee that the project will not increase flooding in the Stockade, then those folks that will be affected(not ones who don't live in the affected area) will then rest easier.   Note the word increase, not cause of all the flooding issues.   An increase in flooding volume results in the waters rising higher up the 5 feeder streets (Washington,Governors Lane,N.Ferry,North, and Ingersol) leading to Front St.   Of course it would have to be proven in a court of law that the Harbor project, if increased flooding occured, directly or indirectly added to the problem.   IF the Lock 7 dam was allowed to release water via gates like the other gated locks this would lessen greatly the incidence of flooding.   If one is interested and for a more comprehensive/technical understanding of the Lock 7 dams effect on flooding google: Lock 7 dam/James Duggan

Quoted from mikechristine1

And where is YOUR evidence that it will not increase flooding?



Personally neither of us here our house are engineers so neither of us would state anything for certain of our own opinion.  It is a well known fact that flooding in the Stockade area happens almost every year.  It is also known that much worse flooding occurred--unrelated to the usual winter/spring flooding from all the ice jams--following the hurricanes.


Now, can you provide a link to the findings of the Army Corps of Engineers?   Has that been completed yet?  When?  

Many interested parties are wondering the same thing.