The deputy was quoted as saying that all the information re: the incident is not yet available. he wants to tell his side of the story. if this guy has a brain in his head, which is doubtful, he ought to be asking if there is any way he can stay out of jail and try and limit the punitive damages.
personally, federal charges and a federal prison sentence would be a just resolution.
The deputy was quoted as saying that all the information re: the incident is not yet available. he wants to tell his side of the story. if this guy has a brain in his head, which is doubtful, he ought to be asking if there is any way he can stay out of jail and try and limit the punitive damages.
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Here is a statement by Glans, what a piece of sh1t
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Glans told the newspaper he would handle the matter in the same way again — but not if he knew he was on camera.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
re: arrogance and attitude versus assault and battery - cherry picking comments to make straw man argument. as I listed imprisonment as a consequence, which carries with it the implication of criminality.
My response was toward Sanfordy, not you. The point I was trying to make to Sanfordy, is that people have a tendency to watch an officer of the law intimidate, threaten, and physically assault a person, and they give them the benefit of the doubt by calling it something other than what it was - a crime. This wasn't "excessive force", arrogance, or a cop with a bad attitude. It was a large armed man, threatening and assaulting a person and forcibly taking his private property.
These two kids were acting completely civilized and were not a threat to this cop or anybody else. They were calmly asserting what they believed to be their rights. And this thug cop treated them like they were terrorists.
And in my opinion why this guy will lose his job, is because he works for the sheriff's department. Unlike town and city police departments, the sheriff has to face direct elections. For instance, a Rotterdam cop threatened a disabled child to compel him to get off a school bus, and when he finally physically removed the child from the bus because he didn't comply with his commands, he broke the kids arm. That cop still has a job.
Cicero - Fair points. But I would point out that Schenectady fired over a dozen officers, so, it can be done. But, yeah there are guys on police payrolls who shouldn't be there.
And I agree it was clearly criminal. And, the victim was unbelievably calm throughout the incident. One silver lining, he just became a millionaire. On a down note, the taxpayers will be the ones paying for it.
Cicero - Fair points. But I would point out that Schenectady fired over a dozen officers, so, it can be done. But, yeah there are guys on police payrolls who shouldn't be there.
And I agree it was clearly criminal. And, the victim was unbelievably calm throughout the incident. One silver lining, he just became a millionaire. On a down note, the taxpayers will be the ones paying for it.
And the taxpayers will be paying for this officers pension/benefits when he is allowed to "retire" or is terminated. Would it a be good idea that when an officer commits such an offense as this that some of the lawsuit expense burden be placed on part the officers pension? Thereby acting as a possible deterent against committing these acts and somewhat lessening the financial burdens on the aforementioned taxpayers. Nothing usually speaks stronger in getting someones attention that a hit to the pocketbook. Yes, with unions influence/contracts being how they are constructed this scenario is very doubtful.
Surprised that the "just cause" reason was not implemented by the officers for a search in this situation. From reading police blotters in the newspapers this is used in many traffic stops (tailight out,failure to signal for a turn etc. and in many cases where large amounts of drugs/weapons are usually found in the vehicle as a result of this stop). By the alledged (?) slapping, if proven, will this be considered assault on the victim as if this incident was reversed this would be the charge against the victim. One gets the impression that either the action by the officer was (1) out of his frustration of being denied immediate compliance the way he saw it should be or (2) He was baiting/inciting a response in hopes of escalating a response from the victim to give the officer "just cause" to arrest him for resisting arrest/or assault. Of course this is all conjecture at this point. One further observation. Am surprised with technology being what it is today that one would act under the assumption that there are cameras/audio recordings everywhere and they usually portray the incidents as they had occured. One has to wonder what transpired in relation to these abuses before the advent of such technology. No doubt people may be equipping their vehicles/homes/on their person, now/in the future with audio/visual aids to record interactions with the authorities to provide a recorded record to be submitted in a court of law. Providing the use of such evidence is not deemed inadmissable by the courts for some such reason. The main point is to get it right and let the chips fall where and upon whom they may fall upon.
By the alledged (?) slapping, if proven, will this be considered assault on the victim as if this incident was reversed this would be the charge against the victim.
You are right...But you left out one small detail. If the incident was reverse, the penalty for assaulting or menacing an officer is greater than an officer assaulting or menacing the mundane citizen. If the roles were reverse, the kid would have been charged with a felony for either menacing or assaulting an officer. The cop on the other hand, if charged with assault or menacing, maybe a misdemeanor.
Randy McNamara: my brother was hospitalized by this officer.. beaten while sleeping in his car.. Sgt. Glans kicked him in the face and throat while he was down.. punching an innocent handcuffed man.. his fellow officers that didn't participate did absolutely nothing to stop this behavior.. one of our greatest fears should be the indifference of good men!!! 11 hours ago
Brian Shrader: Hope your brother recovered from his assault 11 hours ago
Arrest Saratoga Sheriff Sgt. Shawn Glans: We are sorry to hear that. As we post more and more people are invited to this page, there seems to be a pattern. We hope that you can continue being a part of this campaign. 10 hours ago
Brian Shrader: Glans belongs in jail , He has NO business carrying a firearm & is a danger to the people he's sworn to protect 10 hours ago
Audrey Dunn: Randy, I hate to ask, but is that what this comment from another person is referring to? And I'm sorry to hear that your brother was a victim of Glans' lack of self control. Sending love and prayers to you and your family.
'This cop challenges arrested people to fights while they are arrested and in the back of a cop car. Cuffed. Then lets them get out only to hurt them and threaten them with resisting arrest and attempting to escape if they file charges. He should be fired. I think he has been fired from positions in the past in other locations. It would be interesting if that were fact checked.' 8 hours ago
Craig On Sight: I am sure that more and more people will come around and this was not his first time at bat. He looked way to calm and when he did it his partner didnt think twice about continuing the interview. They both need to be fired. 7 hours ago
Dan Rouse I'm honestly tired of hearing the phrase "There are plenty of good cops" when these incidents come to light. A cop that lets cops act in this manner aren't good cops. Whoever the other cop was in this video should also be suspended without pay unless he brought it to his chief's attention before the video went viral. 5 hours ago
Noel Scott Maddow: Yes, the video should have been Mr. Glans slapping the young man, then the other officer putting Glans in handcuffs for assault and battery. There would be the only proof that the entire department is NOT corrupt and complicit. 4 hours ago
Joe Suhrada: A cop will not stop another cop from doing bad things. They check their humanity at the door. 3 hours ago
Jeffrey Jenkins: this is what most cops are ----CRIMINALS---who regularly beat--who regularly commit the CRIMINAL acts such as assault and battery ----menacing and terrorizing --- with threats-and harassment----they are the worst scum out there
sorry but i actually hope not...no one deserves that...that's just wrong and it wont be needed anyways...their cozy life as they know it has already hit the speed bump from hell this time
It was tongue in cheek. I was illustrating how a man with a wife and kids is able to turn a switch off and treat strangers in a way he would NEVER expect his children to be treated by a cop or anybody else. He has no moral compass. He is a sociopath. He has no problems treating somebody else's children in a manner that I can only assume he would not tolerate his own family to be treated.
As Joe Suhrada posted on the Facebook entry L4L posted.
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Joe Suhrada: A cop will not stop another cop from doing bad things. They check their humanity at the door.
It was tongue in cheek. I was illustrating how a man with a wife and kids is able to turn a switch off and treat strangers in a way he would NEVER expect his children to be treated by a cop or anybody else. He has no moral compass. He is a sociopath. He has no problems treating somebody else's children in a manner that I can only assume he would not tolerate his own family to be treated.
As Joe Suhrada posted on the Facebook entry L4L posted.
yeah,actually i did understood what you posted... but its sad to even wish bad luck/karma on kids,even this idiots kids
Moonglow, cops lose their pensions if they get convicted of a crime and fired, unlike other public employees. The reason we've seen cops still getting pensions is because they quit to protect their pension, or some other deal. That trooper whose wife ran the unlicensed day care in their home, he immediately retired, remember? This guy looks like he may still be a ways from retirement. Cops should be noticing cars parked at closed businesses, and they should have questions, seeing a gun on the back seat. That's as far as I go defending the guy. If he wasn't feeling up to the demands of the job, he should have taken time off.
Now, the stress of the day-to-day that may have caused the fine deputy’s lapse in judgment may have been compounded by the paltry compensation he endured – $87,156 in 2014 – exacerbated by the fact that he only got a $7,000 raise (or overtime?) in the past year.
"You saw the video. It doesn't look good," Glans told the Times Union on Saturday. "I'm all about doing the right thing. I had to go to that point because of the factors that came into play. There was a gun that was involved (that) I spotted in the vehicle."
Glans told the newspaper that he did not realize the incident was being filmed.
"I was concerned. It was a public safety issue," he told the Times Union. "If I had to do it all over again ... I'd probably do the same thing. If I knew the camera was there, no, because it does look bad."
After showing cops the receipt for the rifle, which was purchased earlier in the day, the pair was let go, according to the newspaper.
The sheriff's office said in a statement that it "takes matters such as this very seriously and does not in any way condone anything less than professional behavior from our members."
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