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Women in the US are not property of the government, just as women are not property of the Taliban and ISIS.



The unborn is property of the woman?  

If a doctor saves a baby's life by delivering it 8 weeks before full gestation, and provide medical treatment in a neonatal ICU - we applaud the doctor and modern medicine for saving a human life.  

If a doctor dismembers that same baby limb by limb, 8 weeks before full gestation - the baby is not human, it is property of the woman, and it is called "pro choice".

Do I believe the government should step in and stop it?  Not sure....  Do I think government school curriculums should indoctrinate impressionable adolescents that abortion is something other than taking a human life - ABSOLUTELY NOT.


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The unborn is property of the woman?  

If a doctor saves a baby's life by delivering it 8 weeks before full gestation, and provide medical treatment in a neonatal ICU - we applaud the doctor and modern medicine for saving a human life.  

If a doctor dismembers that same baby limb by limb, 8 weeks before full gestation - the baby is not human, it is property of the woman, and it is called "pro choice".

Do I believe the government should step in and stop it?  Not sure....  Do I think government school curriculums should indoctrinate impressionable adolescents that abortion is something other than taking a human life - ABSOLUTELY NOT.


To reduce abortions they should show videos of actual abortions to students.

While I am against abortion, I don't believe my views should be forced on others.

I believe it is a personal matter for individuals to decide for themselves.

Every person should have the right to reproduce themselves or not.

Governments should not be legislating reproduction.





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To reduce abortions they should show videos of actual abortions to students.

While I am against abortion, I don't believe my views should be forced on others.
Governments should not be legislating reproduction.


It's not legislating reproduction, it's determining what can be done to the life created after the reproductive act that creates the life.  In my example of the prematurely born and prematurely aborted.  In both cases, it is a viable human life.  The doctor and mother has the power to give that human life constitutional protection from murder.  A viable human life, carrying it's own unique DNA different from the mother, is treated like private property that can be exterminated out of convenience.


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The unborn is property of the woman?  

If a doctor saves a baby's life by delivering it 8 weeks before full gestation, and provide medical treatment in a neonatal ICU - we applaud the doctor and modern medicine for saving a human life.  

If a doctor dismembers that same baby limb by limb, 8 weeks before full gestation - the baby is not human, it is property of the woman, and it is called "pro choice".

Do I believe the government should step in and stop it?  Not sure....  Do I think government school curriculums should indoctrinate impressionable adolescents that abortion is something other than taking a human life - ABSOLUTELY NOT.



when a man accidentally shoots his 9 month old it's called gun violence .... it could also be called abortion

having choice as everyone should doesn't require a label......or does it?
Box likes to label for righteous power. DVOR likes to label for righteous power.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Anyway, back to the thread....

Jeb Bush isn't going to get nominated because of  his hard on for implementing 'Common Core' and granting amnesty for illegals.

These two issues alone are going to sink him.




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Anyway, back to the thread....

Jeb Bush isn't going to get nominated because of  his hard on for implementing 'Common Core' and granting amnesty for illegals.

These two issues alone are going to sink him.


His last name sinks him.


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We went from a mediocre Bush (Daddy Bush)
To
A disastrous Bush (Baby Bush)
I doubt it could get much worse with Bush III


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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no Bush.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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