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THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT LISTEN TO THE NEWS......AND understand what is between the lines.

factual info????????....who is giving this??????????....not the media....not the government.....not the CDC

and an EBOLA CZAR???....he's a lawyer......

so PARENT......my statements are common sense statements....I don't have to use big words or "quote" to say
what I feel.......

WE ARE AT RISK....AND THE SOONER YOU REALIZE THIS...THE BETTER.....that's what's wrong with you folks
it can't happen here........no worry.....let it slide and let someone else take care of it....

now that's factual...
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THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT LISTEN TO THE NEWS......AND understand what is between the lines.

factual info????????....who is giving this??????????....not the media....not the government.....not the CDC

and an EBOLA CZAR???....he's a lawyer......

so PARENT......my statements are common sense statements....I don't have to use big words or "quote" to say
what I feel.......

WE ARE AT RISK....AND THE SOONER YOU REALIZE THIS...THE BETTER.....that's what's wrong with you folks
it can't happen here........no worry.....let it slide and let someone else take care of it....

now that's factual...



I don't understand why there is an ebola CZAR......I thought czars were in russia?

how about an F'EN SURGEON GENERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

does the czar answer to the president or the WHO?

what a classic fu(k up......shame shame shame on us for letting this happen......will the czar become the ACA Czar????
via homeland security.....

pay attention and connect the dots......it has NOTHING to do with Ebola........

the government has mandated healthcare workers with threat of job loss to get a flu vaccine.....WTF!!!! that's an army if
you ask me......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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WE ARE AT RISK....AND THE SOONER YOU REALIZE THIS...THE BETTER.....that's what's wrong with you folks
it can't happen here........no worry.....let it slide and let someone else take care of it....

now that's factual...


gotta agree....WE are at risk...if someone showed up in washington with this it would be a whole new ball game...im really not sorry to say i would rather be a live chicken than a dead duck...

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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Obama has ordered 4,000 troops to West Africa to fight ebola.

U.S. Soldiers Get Just Four Hours of Ebola Training
As the U.S. military rushes to combat Ebola in West Africa, soldiers are receiving on-the-fly instructions on how to protect themselves against the deadly virus.

American military operations to fight Ebola in Africa are unfolding quickly—forcing the military to come up with some procedures and protocols on the fly.

Soldiers preparing for deployment to West Africa are given just four hours of Ebola-related training before leaving to combat the epidemic. And the first 500 soldiers to arrive have been holing up in Liberian hotels and government facilities while the military builds longer-term infrastructure on the ground.

For soldiers at Fort Campbell and Fort Bragg preparing for their deployments to West Africa, Mobile Training Teams from the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), based out of Fort Detrick, have been tasked with instructing them on Ebola protocols.

A team of two can train as many as 50 personnel over that four-hour time frame, USAMRIID told The Daily Beast. The training includes hands-on instruction on how to put on, remove, and decontaminate personal protective equipment, followed by a practical test to ensure that soldiers understand the procedures.

“All training is tiered to the level of risk each person may encounter,” said USAMRIID spokeswoman Caree Vander Linden.

The training process sounds daunting: One USA Today report described soldiers being told that Ebola “basically causes your body to eat itself from the inside out” and that Ebola is “worse” than what soldiers encountered in Afghanistan. Others reportedly heard that the disease is “catastrophic” and “frightening… with a high fatality rate,” though the chances of contracting it are low.

“I’ll be honest with you,” one soldier told the newspaper. “I’m kind of scared.”

The military maintains that the risk of contracting the virus is minimal. Ebola is not an airborne disease, and there are no plans for U.S. service members deployed to West Africa to have any contact with sick patients.

“I’m not an epidemiologist, but it’s been shown that this disease is most manifest when handling bodily fluid—blood, other sorts of fluids, and there is no plan right now for U.S. soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines to do that,” Maj. Gen. Darryl Williams, the officer in charge of America’s operations center in Liberia, told reporters Thursday. “As long as you exercise basic sanitation and cleanliness sort of protocols … I think the risk is relatively low.”

There are just over 500 military service members in West Africa, serving in Senegal and Liberia. A major part of their mission is logistics and construction: The U.S. military is  building a 25-bed hospital and 17 Ebola treatment units, as well as training health-care providers in Liberia.

A small number of specially trained soldiers from USAMRIID are at the highest risk, and an exception to Williams’ comment that soldiers are not handling bodily fluids. These service members have been supporting a laboratory in Liberia to run Ebola tests on patient samples, but are also are highly prepared to deal with infectious diseases.

The first 500 American troops in Liberia are so far living in improvised quarters in hotels and government building, according to congressional and military sources. The military is working to transition in the future to “life support areas” that will house the thousands of soldiers who eventually arrive to support the U.S. mission to combat Ebola in West Africa, according to a military spokesman. They are also utilizing local drivers and vehicles to support their movements.

“The hotels are fairly well controlled in terms of access… They have a fairly well-structured screening process going in and out,” a Senate aide briefed by the Pentagon on the military’s procedures told The Daily Beast. “It sounds like they have an adequate level of screening and protective measures in place. That being said, once they move to a self-contained quarters, that will probably be better.”

    Soldiers based in Liberia have their temperature measured several times per day, and are not permitted to shake hands.

The military maintains that American service members have only limited interactions with locals on the ground. But some American soldiers are working with the Armed Forces of Liberia on a day-to-day basis, and others are training health-care providers on how to combat the virus.

Further, the military acknowledges that it is currently sharing hotels and businesses with foreign nationals.

"We are here with the permission of the Liberian government and we do not clear out local hotels and businesses during our stay," said an Army spokesman. "We chose hotels with the safety of our service members in mind, and the hotel staffs monitor all employees and guests and allow us to conduct safety inspections of their facilities to ensure they meet our safety criteria."

Instead, the military spokesman focused on the precautions that they are already taking: Soldiers based in Liberia have their temperature measured several times per day, and are not permitted to shake hands. They are also are required to frequently wash their hands with a chlorine solution. Some locations even employ chlorine mats that service members are required to wipe their feet on in order to enter.

“The facilities that we’re in have been vetted by our doctors. [They] have gone through the facilities to make sure that they’re safe for our soldiers,” Army spokesman Lt. Col. Michael Indovina said. “We’re very confident. We’ve had very good luck from the time when we’ve arrived on the ground.”

Congress has been slow to give the green light to funding for military operations combating Ebola in Africa, in large part due to initial skepticism over whether there was a sufficient plan for protecting American service members in Liberia.
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what was the number of beds for treatment of this here in this country? eight or six...i cant remeber where i read this but its one of the 2  


edited to add; corporal hicks? hes just a grunt...no offense      
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The zombie apocalypse is upon us!  



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THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT LISTEN TO THE NEWS......AND understand what is between the lines.

factual info????????....who is giving this??????????....not the media....not the government.....not the CDC

and an EBOLA CZAR???....he's a lawyer......

so PARENT......my statements are common sense statements....I don't have to use big words or "quote" to say
what I feel.......

WE ARE AT RISK....AND THE SOONER YOU REALIZE THIS...THE BETTER.....that's what's wrong with you folks
it can't happen here........no worry.....let it slide and let someone else take care of it....

now that's factual...


Still not factual.
I didn't use any quotes or big words the first time I posted anything but here's a quote for you.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18." Albert Einstein

There are always risks, but the risks that you and the media are pushing are completely overblown and not based on reality.  It's same overblown panic that we saw with SARS, and anthrax and swine flu...see a trend?

Have you been in contact with a person with active symptoms of ebola? No, then you are not at risk.

Simple as that.


The ebola czar as a lawyer--everyone has turned this medically, science based event into some sort of political tug a war. The lawyers is to deal with that BS, so the doctors, scientists can do what they need to do. It's a stupid position appointed to deal with the stupidity that has begun to distract the real work that needs to be done.


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what was the number of beds for treatment of this here in this country? eight or six...i cant remeber where i read this but its one of the 2  


edited to add; corporal hicks? hes just a grunt...no offense      


There are 9 beds for this type of treatment at Emory, Nebraska, and Bethesda. These are the established beds with prior history of treating high risk infectious patients.

NY now has 8 hospitals that have the capability, training and desire to take long term care of anyone with Ebola. I don't think its been released how many patients each of the 8 hospitals can take. Other Hospitals in NY should be able to diagnose and isolate abd hold anyone who is suspected of having symptoms.

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WE ARE AT RISK....AND THE SOONER YOU REALIZE THIS...THE BETTER.....that's what's wrong with you folks
it can't happen here........no worry.....let it slide and let someone else take care of it....

now that's factual...


Reading your posts over the years, it leads me to believe that it must take a lot of courage for you to leave your house everyday and enter the scary world.


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gotta agree....WE are at risk...if someone showed up in washington with this it would be a whole new ball game...im really not sorry to say i would rather be a live chicken than a dead duck...



That's sad.   Unfortunately you are not alone.  

I'll bet if the CDC told you were possibly in contact with somebody suspected of having ebola, you would have no problem being quarantined for 21 days.  

Fear of disease is a great tool to convince people to jail themselves.


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righteous and wrong all that criticize and think that I am a woos.....far from it....

no one knows and to think that some of you bloggers can be so critical and insensitive.....

No one is taking the handle and showing up to PREVENT an outbreak.......the government has used everyone but the right ones to control this disease.

BEDS??????????.......training and education about this disease......and I believe that if the CDC has been in touch with all those who traveled by plane.

or had any contact ...then they are not sure if this disease can be airborne....

Be sure to wash your hands.....if anyone sneezes around you......God bless them......if they have a cough ..offer then a cough drop....

and if they say they have traveled from W Africa???.......RUN...



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That's sad.   Unfortunately you are not alone.  

I'll bet if the CDC told you were possibly in contact with somebody suspected of having ebola, you would have no problem being quarantined for 21 days.  

Fear of disease is a great tool to convince people to jail themselves.


LOL!! fear? sad? more like amused... center for disease control is neither the center of or capable of controlling any disease ..

but if it does arrive locally fear is an understatement

my latest medical "adventure"...went to my doctors in may of this year...simple diabetic foot exam...very NEXT day have an infection from my feet to my knees...went to 6 different doctors in the last 5 months and was on 4 different types of sulfa based antibiotics {im allergic to penicillin}before it actually occurred to the last one to take a culture of whats on my legs and making me sick as all hell...good news they said nothing to be worried about its not mrsa , just a staph infection    

ps...whats mrsa but a form of staph....why bother to try to correct the resident who told me the good news     
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LOL!! fear? sad? more like amused... center for disease control is neither the center of or capable of controlling any disease ..


Amused...That's more like it!  I've talked to neighbors about this ebola scare, and some of the stuff that comes out of their mouth amazes me.  It's scary the things they say and are willing to do.


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or had any contact ...then they are not sure if this disease can be airborne....





They are sure, it is not airborne.
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