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Libertarian4life
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Nope. The government shouldn't be funding the murder of millions of innocent babies.


You recognize the wrongness of government control of reproduction, but your outrage exists as a monetary issue.

You should have moral outrage against government actions taking part in the slaughter of the innocent.

I certainly do.

The difference is you are being highly selective based on who the victims are, not by the actions themselves, which are in fact the entire problem.

Selective moral values and assigning a higher value of one life over another, is fence jumping, whereby you are fighting against your own argument much of the time.

Just select which side you are on.

You do not object to cops killing people whenever they are scared, or military killing of the innocent to get the accused, without a trial.

Come on, only American babies are innocent lives that need saving?



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If it is not a baby inside the mother's womb, than why do the Pro-Deathers like Tkaczyk and Tonko keep claiming to be protecting "reproductive rights."  



You just have your crystal clear belief that not being anti-abortion is pro-death.

Calling people pro-death for not desiring government interference in family matters is not even close to the truth.

Most people respect others and let them decide what's best for their own families.

You simply think the government should be controlling all families.

Where is the acceptance of diversity, that you speak of?

You seek government control of family matters and absolutely don't care that others don't share your belief.

Pro-death?

Coming from a supporter of war.

You are a funny man.

Funny, as in peculiar.



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humans are aliens until otherwise schooled and turned into cogs.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The most important liberty to protect is the right to life.  Without the right to life, the right to free speech, assembly, bear arms, vote, worship, etc.  are meaningless.

If one believes in liberty than no person should have the "right" to take another person's life.  

So, all those pro-choice "libertarians" are are just hypocrites.  


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The most important liberty to protect is the right to life.  Without the right to life, the right to free speech, assembly, bear arms, vote, worship, etc.  are meaningless.

If one believes in liberty than no person should have the "right" to take another person's life.  

So, all those pro-choice "libertarians" are are just hypocrites.  


Your right to life does not extend beyond your own body.

You can't argue that making decisions for others is your right to life.

You are trying to disregard other people's rights to their own beliefs and enforce your Sharia law on them.

You are willing to trample rights to enforce your beliefs which are not the law.

You are such a clone of Obama it isn't funny.

There are others that do not support abortion, but you make them your enemy by declaring war on their right to make decisions for their own families.

What kind of moral values wishes the state to make decisions for your family?

You are mixing issues to attempt to bypass the will of the people.

Libertarian rule number one:

Mind your own business.

Minding reproductive decisions of others is socialism.

Trying to get the guys with guns to do it for you is full blown Communism.

Talk about hypocrites, you think Obama is not homicidal or violent enough.

You are so pro-death that you can't even comprehend the reality of the situation.

You want government to kill people without due process , but also want to claim pro-lifism for the unborn.









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NEW POLL: George Amedore up by 11% points despite horrible slime ads by his opponent paid for by George Soros, the horrible liberal one per center. George Amedore won Schenectady County big last time. Let's double our efforts to send a message that we do not want to be represented by a George Soros pro-abortion, pro-tax phony farmer.
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If one believes in liberty than no person should have the "right" to take another person's life.  

  


Then you are against drones and war?

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Then you are against drones and war?



I have NEVER said that I was in favor of drones.  

You apparently are in favor of one person having the personal right to kill another person based on your stand on abortion.  You are NOT a friend of liberty.


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You recognize the wrongness of government control of reproduction, but your outrage exists as a monetary issue.

You should have moral outrage against government actions taking part in the slaughter of the innocent.

I certainly do.

The difference is you are being highly selective based on who the victims are, not by the actions themselves, which are in fact the entire problem.

Selective moral values and assigning a higher value of one life over another, is fence jumping, whereby you are fighting against your own argument much of the time.

Just select which side you are on.

You do not object to cops killing people whenever they are scared, or military killing of the innocent to get the accused, without a trial.

Come on, only American babies are innocent lives that need saving?





You must be smoking crack -- I have NEVER said that I was believe cops should kill people whenever they are scared or that the military should kill innocent people,




George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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You just have your crystal clear belief that not being anti-abortion is pro-death.

Calling people pro-death for not desiring government interference in family matters is not even close to the truth.

Most people respect others and let them decide what's best for their own families.

You simply think the government should be controlling all families.

Where is the acceptance of diversity, that you speak of?

You seek government control of family matters and absolutely don't care that others don't share your belief.

Pro-death?

Coming from a supporter of war.

You are a funny man.

Funny, as in peculiar.





Well -- last things first -- I think you are an a** who doesn't really care about freedom and liberty.

Now moving on to war -- I don't advocate fighting war just for the sake of fighting war.  However, if our nation is under attack or its national security is threatened (and it was attacked on 9-11 and our national security is certainly under threat from ISIS and other wacko terrorist groups) than we must not only defend ourselves but search out and "neutralize" the threat.  

Somewhere in another post, you falsely stated that I believed that the government should kill persons without due process.  You are absolutely WRONG making that statement.

I am consistently Pro-Life -- opposed to abortion, opposed to euthanasia, opposed to the death penalty, opposed to indiscriminate war, etc.  

So -- back to Tkaczyk who is the one running for public office and who is the one who (according to her own campaign website) PROUDLY supports unlimited, unrestricted abortion ----- her view is dangerous to our fundamental liberties ... her view is extremist.   I could never vote for a candidate who holds the view that she holds on abortion.

Beyond the abortion issue - she has wasted tens of thousands of dollars of taxpayer dollars - yours and mine - on these stupid mailings from her office.   I hope she is reading this -- because her mailings ("official" and campaign) are put unread through the shredder.  The same goes for all the other "official" mailings from elected officials and most campaign mailings.  


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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I have NEVER said that I was in favor of drones.  

You apparently are in favor of one person having the personal right to kill another person based on your stand on abortion.  You are NOT a friend of liberty.


You aren't a person until you are born.

If a woman chooses to end a possible life inside of her own body, it clearly is not another person.

You are a Communist.

I respect family values.

You want the government5 to force family values on everyone you disagree with.

Abortion is the law.

Stop trying to force unconstitutional changes.

The law has been challenged and accepted, as not being a violation of anyone's right to life, as you claim.

But hey, who knows more about the Constitution, the Supreme Court, or an extremist numbskull preaching hate.

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You must be smoking crack -- I have NEVER said that I was believe cops should kill people whenever they are scared or that the military should kill innocent people,




Yet you demand your tax dollars don't go towards killing the innocent unborn, but you say nothing about you tax dollars being spent killing living innocent beings.

Selective outrage over a single action which is perfectly legal.

War crimes and police atrocities not a peep.

Communist demands for government power over families.

Your single agenda has you so far invested that you will accept the loss of self determination of family values as you seek the government to force your values on all people.

As the guy on TV says, "the worst person in the world!"

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You aren't a person until you are born.

If a woman chooses to end a possible life inside of her own body, it clearly is not another person.

You are a Communist.

I respect family values.

You want the government5 to force family values on everyone you disagree with.

Abortion is the law.

Stop trying to force unconstitutional changes.

The law has been challenged and accepted, as not being a violation of anyone's right to life, as you claim.

But hey, who knows more about the Constitution, the Supreme Court, or an extremist numbskull preaching hate.



I don't quite understand the logic.  If a man assaults a pregnant woman and kills the life inside of her, is he not guilty of murdering the unborn life, and he is only guilty of assault?  Scott Petersen was convicted of double murder for killing his pregnant wife.  I don't recall the pro choice crowd screaming about treating the unborn as a person.

BTW...the Supreme Court ruled that Jim Crow laws were legal and Constitutional and the government can penalize you for not purchasing health insurance.


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Well -- last things first -- I think you are an a** who doesn't really care about freedom and liberty.

Now moving on to war -- I don't advocate fighting war just for the sake of fighting war.  However, if our nation is under attack or its national security is threatened (and it was attacked on 9-11 and our national security is certainly under threat from ISIS and other wacko terrorist groups) than we must not only defend ourselves but search out and "neutralize" the threat.  

Somewhere in another post, you falsely stated that I believed that the government should kill persons without due process.  You are absolutely WRONG making that statement.

I am consistently Pro-Life -- opposed to abortion, opposed to euthanasia, opposed to the death penalty, opposed to indiscriminate war, etc.  

So -- back to Tkaczyk who is the one running for public office and who is the one who (according to her own campaign website) PROUDLY supports unlimited, unrestricted abortion ----- her view is dangerous to our fundamental liberties ... her view is extremist.   I could never vote for a candidate who holds the view that she holds on abortion.

Beyond the abortion issue - she has wasted tens of thousands of dollars of taxpayer dollars - yours and mine - on these stupid mailings from her office.   I hope she is reading this -- because her mailings ("official" and campaign) are put unread through the shredder.  The same goes for all the other "official" mailings from elected officials and most campaign mailings.  


War, drones and street killings by the police are all pro-death, not pro-life.

Obama is killing innocent living beings every single day.

They are only a threat because Obama is exactly like you.

He wants to force his values on the world.

No due process, just point and the military sends a drone or a bomb.

Knowingly taking innocent lives in the process.
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Cops on the street, kill any threat.

Forget about arrest and a trial.

Standard practice.

Same with the military.

Kill the innocent, call it collateral damage.

Call them human shields.

You are the hater of the Constitution, liberty and due process.

You are the hater of personal family matters being handled by families.

You love the almighty state.

It is your God.

A God of death and destruction whom you seek to align yourself with.









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I don't quite understand the logic.  If a man assaults a pregnant woman and kills the life inside of her, is he not guilty of murdering the unborn life, and he is only guilty of assault?  Scott Petersen was convicted of double murder for killing his pregnant wife.  I don't recall the pro choice crowd screaming about treating the unborn as a person.

BTW...the Supreme Court ruled that Jim Crow laws were legal and Constitutional and the government can penalize you for not purchasing health insurance.


Right Wing Anti Choice Fanatics have passed lots of laws that infringe on individual freedom.  
The "fetus murder" is one of them.  
They have even proposed that male masturbation is "killing a human life", and wanted it to
be a crime.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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