GE hasn't left. While it doesn't employ as many people as it did years ago, it is still here. New employers are coming in.
within the last 6 month generous electric has abolished TWO entire dept's which totaled over 200 people. golub just let 80 high paying jobs go and it is rumored that there are more coming. (not to mention the ones they laid off last year)
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Whoever made that statement is mistaken/clueless. The urban center is vital to the health of the surrounding neighborhoods that make up a city. If you let the urban center decline and deteriorate, the rest of the city will go down with it. The most successful efforts to revitalize cities in this country began by reviving the urban center.
THAT is not what the person meant.....little downtowns are like malls....the foundation of a thriving downtown is what surrounds it.
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The urban center is vital to the health of the surrounding neighborhoods that make up a city. If you let the urban center decline and deteriorate, the rest of the city will go down with it. The most successful efforts to revitalize cities in this country began by reviving the urban center.
Gee, the FACT is the neighborhoods were rather thriving when downtown was empty
The FACT is that with all the fixing up of downtown, the neighborhoods have declining worse than all of history.
Obviously you have proven once again, DV, that you NEVER ENTER the city. The EVIDENCE shows that while the "downtown urban center" has been fixed up on the backs of the taxpayers, the neighborhoods are in MASSIVE DECLINE.
Do we need to show you the houses again?
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
The FACT is that with all the fixing up of downtown, the neighborhoods have declining worse than all of history.
the fixing up of downtown didn't cause the decline. It was already in the beginning stages of decline when Generous Electric pulled out. Everyone will tell you that! THERE WERE NO JOBS!! And there still isn't!! LOOK AT DETROIT!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
It was already in the beginning stages of decline when Generous Electric pulled out.
Wait! What! Somebody actually gets it?
In 1964 one of the top stories in the Gazette EVERY DAY was the ongoing talks between GE and the union. 5000 jobs were at stake back then. Also how to transition from piece work to day work. Nobody was happy.
When I worked at GE in the early '70's plenty of people were still pissed off about that change. So much so that they really didn't give a sh*t anymore. Day work was a joke. You could complete your "quota" in 3 hours, and spend the rest of the night drinking beer and playing cards. Nobody cared. Yeah, that was really going to work out. Pay people 8 hrs for 3 hrs work. Hell, if I owned the company I'd leave town too.
None of what's going on now happened overnight, and not one party or individual is to blame. We've all got blood on our hands. It's just convenient to blame somebody else.
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
In 1964 one of the top stories in the Gazette EVERY DAY was the ongoing talks between GE and the union. 5000 jobs were at stake back then. Also how to transition from piece work to day work. Nobody was happy.
When I worked at GE in the early '70's plenty of people were still pissed off about that change. So much so that they really didn't give a sh*t anymore. Day work was a joke. You could complete your "quota" in 3 hours, and spend the rest of the night drinking beer and playing cards. Nobody cared. Yeah, that was really going to work out. Pay people 8 hrs for 3 hrs work. Hell, if I owned the company I'd leave town too.
None of what's going on now happened overnight, and not one party or individual is to blame. We've all got blood on our hands. It's just convenient to blame somebody else.
EXACTLY!! And if anyone remembers or reads about the 70's......there were NO JOBS! Inflation was out of the roof!! Gas shortages!! Mortgage rates were in the double digits. houses were sold cheap cause the interest rates where huge!!! that was the beginning of the end! today we are living with the results! METROPLEX/GILLEN didn't create this mess....but they sure didn't help it either!! they just helped the rich get richer. And the reps would have done the identical same thing!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
EXACTLY!! And if anyone remembers or reads about the 70's......there were NO JOBS! Inflation was out of the roof!! Gas shortages!! Mortgage rates were in the double digits. houses were sold cheap cause the interest rates where huge!!! that was the beginning of the end! today we are living with the results! METROPLEX/GILLEN didn't create this mess....but they sure didn't help it either!! they just helped the rich get richer. And the reps would have done the identical same thing!!!!
Oh I lived it. That's why I chuckle and scratch my head when I read things today. Yeah, I loved waiting in line for an hour or two (shutting the car off so I wouldn't run out of gas while in line) so I had the "privilege" of buying a few gallons of gas, assuming that when you got to the pumps they hadn't run out.
Oh, and those old-timers at GE. They knew what was coming too. They didn't care. They had seniority and were gonna get THEIR pension, regardless of how many jobs left. I really think the strike of '69 was the final nail in the coffin and GE determined they were moving as many jobs as possible out of the City.
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
THAT is not what the person meant.....little downtowns are like malls....the foundation of a thriving downtown is what surrounds it.
A thriving urban center need people LIVING within it -- that is what is beginning to happen in the urban center of Schenectady. We need to have MORE projects in the urban core of Schenectady like the ones in Saratoga -- commercial/office only on the first floor and 2 to 3 or more stories of residential units above.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
A thriving urban center need people LIVING within it -- that is what is beginning to happen in the urban center of Schenectady. We need to have MORE projects in the urban core of Schenectady like the ones in Saratoga -- commercial/office only on the first floor and 2 to 3 or more stories of residential units above.
At expense of all the homeowners in the city.
Hike the taxes on the homeowners so they lose their homes. I guess you think they will be forced into apartments downtown so Galesi can get richer and give more money to your buddy dems---your buddies who think so little of you they refuse to give you a job, and you can't even live like a normal adult, independent and self supporting. 34 years as an adult and still failed to launch, still has to live with two mommies. So upset that he doesn't live like a normal adult, independent, can't even rent his own apartment, he wants everyone in the city to lose their homes.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Hike the taxes on the homeowners so they lose their homes. I guess you think they will be forced into apartments downtown so Galesi can get richer and give more money to your buddy dems---your buddies who think so little of you they refuse to give you a job, and you can't even live like a normal adult, independent and self supporting. 34 years as an adult and still failed to launch, still has to live with two mommies. So upset that he doesn't live like a normal adult, independent, can't even rent his own apartment, he wants everyone in the city to lose their homes.
WTF????
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
Dv says put everyone in the "urban center" The "urban center" is getting built at taxpayer expense and the property owners/landlords are exempt from paying property taxes. So property owners collect rents but pay no taxes. Homeowners have to pay the taxes of the millionaire property owners I the "urban center" and when unable to pay the taxes of the millionaire will lose their homes to tax foreclosure.
Where is the TRANSPARENCY of metroplex?????? The taxpayers of the city have a BIRTHRITH ENTITLEMENT to know how many apartments they paid to build, what is the occupancy rate, what is the rental cost, are renters current on their rent, and homeowners have a BIRTHRIGHT ENTITLEMENT to a full financial disclosure, including ALL IRS tax returns of the property owners they have paid to build these places for.
It's the taxpayers' money - taxpayers have a BIRTHRITH ENTITLEMENT to have get the IRS tax returns of all the downtown property owners.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Dv says put everyone in the "urban center" The "urban center" is getting built at taxpayer expense and the property owners/landlords are exempt from paying property taxes. So property owners collect rents but pay no taxes. Homeowners have to pay the taxes of the millionaire property owners I the "urban center" and when unable to pay the taxes of the millionaire will lose their homes to tax foreclosure.
Where is the TRANSPARENCY of metroplex?????? The taxpayers of the city have a BIRTHRITH ENTITLEMENT to know how many apartments they paid to build, what is the occupancy rate, what is the rental cost, are renters current on their rent, and homeowners have a BIRTHRIGHT ENTITLEMENT to a full financial disclosure, including ALL IRS tax returns of the property owners they have paid to build these places for.
It's the taxpayers' money - taxpayers have a BIRTHRITH ENTITLEMENT to have get the IRS tax returns of all the downtown property owners.
WHO THE f*** CARES WHAT DV THINKS!!!! AND WHY SHOULD YOU??!!! YOU'RE POSTS ARE BORING AND UNINTERESTING!!! YOU'RE BECOMING A JOKE AND YOU DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT!!!! GET A LIFE!!!!!!!
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,"
A thriving urban center need people LIVING within it -- that is what is beginning to happen in the urban center of Schenectady. We need to have MORE projects in the urban core of Schenectady like the ones in Saratoga -- commercial/office only on the first floor and 2 to 3 or more stories of residential units above.
SUBSIDIZED living spaces, because $15/hour isn't enough anymore and certainly $10/hour is pathetic....they built a playground for themselves and subsidized a bunch of janitors/healthcare workers/hotel maids/waiters/waitresses/cab drivers etc etc.....oh, yeah, it rolls downhill but not like it does for the city/county workers that the folks making $10-$15/hour and subsidized by the government could afford....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
We need to have MORE projects in the urban core of Schenectady like the ones in Saratoga -- commercial/office only on the first floor and 2 to 3 or more stories of residential units above.
You seem to forget that even tho Saratoga does have commercial w/residential units above it........it FIRST had homes in the surrounding areas with families....and a great school system as a major draw.
Unlike Saratoga.....the so called 'urban' area of Schenectady is surrounded by high taxed slums with a substandard school system, shootings and high crime.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
SUBSIDIZED living spaces, because $15/hour isn't enough anymore and certainly $10/hour is pathetic....they built a playground for themselves and subsidized a bunch of janitors/healthcare workers/hotel maids/waiters/waitresses/cab drivers etc etc.....oh, yeah, it rolls downhill but not like it does for the city/county workers that the folks making $10-$15/hour and subsidized by the government could afford....
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