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Quoted from Box A Rox
Tantillo did not reveal the vote tally but said he believed the grand jury blamed Ward
for the accident.


“The grand jury was never tasked with the responsibility of anything other than to determine
whether there was enough evidence to file charges against Tony Stewart,” Tantillo said in a
news conference.
“They were not considering whether anybody else was at fault. However, I am sure from their
deliberations and discussions that the fact that Kevin Ward was observed running basically
down two-thirds of the track into a hot track in the middle of other cars that were still racing
played a big, big factor in their decision.”




"... but said he believed ...."   No one will ever know for sure.

And while I personally, and have said already, that I don't think Stewart would do something that could negatively affect his career, the public does not know whether ALL THE INFORMATION was indeed presented.  The public does not know exactly what was asked in reference to the claims that Stewart's back end (the car) hitting Ward was intentional (Stewart trying to scare Ward just a bit) as opposed to how these cars handle.  Who conducted accident reconstruction?   Police who do not understand these different cars?   Track officials?  Experts in these cars?  

No one will know whether ALL THE INFORMATION was presented.  And while unrelated, a good comparison can be used with the Michael Brown shooting.  If grand jury in that state is exactly the same as ours, and if that grand jury does not indict the police officer, it wouldn't surprise me if all hell breaks lose and there will forever be questions in the minds of people on both sides.


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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and no one will know whether Stewart was in a frame of mind to be racing ......and decision wouldn't have been any other way???

remember his anger is far above being rational.....and he has shown that many, many times......now the law is is effect not to get out of your car...

that law was in the books well before this tragic event......yet, Kevin Ward is being blamed for all of this.....and Stewart is the victim.....

watch the video....under caution and no one slowed down....NO ONE>>....affect Stewart's career.....will he still race making the right decisions and can he focus

pm behavior that is more professional than erratic???.....yes, no one will ever know.....NASCAR is in it for money......and race car drivers are indispensable

and sponsors still have big time money.....no one wins in this case......but the victim is KEVIN WARD......and no nonsense about what may have been in his

autopsy report that makes it point finger to Kevin....who knows what influence Stewart was under.......??????????????
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......now the law is is effect not to get out of your car...

that law was in the books well before this tragic event...........



There is no law that says drivers cannot get out of their cars




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NASCAR issues new regulation following deadly wreck
Posted: Aug 15, 2014 5:57 PM EST Updated: Sep 12, 2014 5:57 PM EST
By WAFF.com Staff - email

The ruling came just a week after Tony Stewart's car struck and killed driver Kevin Ward Junior at a small track in New York. (Source: MGN) The ruling came just a week after Tony Stewart's car struck and killed driver Kevin Ward Junior at a small track in New York. (Source: MGN)
HUNTSVILLE, AL (WAFF) -

NASCAR drivers now have a new rule to follow: stay inside your car. NASCAR issued the new regulation on Friday. It follows the deadly wreck involving Tony Stewart and Keith Ward Junior the week before.

During a press conference, NASCAR Vice President Robin Pemberton explained what drivers and crew members should and should not do when there are wrecks on the track during a race.

The rule states that if during an event, a racecar is involved in an on-track incident and is unable to continue to make forward progress, the driver should take the following steps: Shut off electrical power, lower the window down, do not remove any safety equipment until directed to do so by safety personnel or a NASCAR official, and after being directed to exit the race car, the driver should proceed to the ambulance.
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this whole thread.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from mikechristine1



There is no law that says drivers cannot get out of their cars




It's called COMMON SENSE!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from Shadow

NASCAR issues new regulation following deadly wreck
Posted: Aug 15, 2014 5:57 PM EST Updated: Sep 12, 2014 5:57 PM EST
By WAFF.com Staff - email

The ruling came just a week



That is not a law.   It is a rule/policy by NASCAR.  

This rule does not affect WOO, ESS, DIRT, ASCS, etc    Some may have adopted such a rule, others may no have (yet).  Unfortunately they don't post addendums to their rule books



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It's called COMMON SENSE!!!!




I agree totally.   But government does not have such a law that rules racing, and if there is nothing in the rules, then what happens in the legal sense when there is nothing that prohibits Ward from doing what he did.


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I think survival of the fittest won....obviously he should have stayed in his car......same as someone swimming with sharks and not
in a cage......

this was pure evolution


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from mikechristine1



That is not a law.   It is a rule/policy by NASCAR.  

This rule does not affect WOO, ESS, DIRT, ASCS, etc    Some may have adopted such a rule, others may no have (yet).  Unfortunately they don't post addendums to their rule books
Apparently the grand jury surmised that Ward contributed to his death by leaving the safety of his car to
approach Stewart






I agree totally.   But government does not have such a law that rules racing, and if there is nothing in the rules, then what happens in the legal sense when there is nothing that prohibits Ward from doing what he did.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Tantillo said a toxicology report revealed that Ward was under the influence of marijuana
at the time of the accident — “enough to impair judgment.”


What does it matter?  Three other drivers could have been stored for all we know, maybe even the winner of the race.     Was Tony Stewart tired from traveling and racing multiple races a weekend?  Drowsiness impairs judgement too.  The marijuana scape goat is such a red herring.  People drive high everyday and they don't run into traffic.  

Tony certainly has good PR people.


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LMAO!  The grand jury is Tony's PR People!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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It doesn't matter whether Mr. Ward has marijuana in his system or not, he should never have gotten out of his car and walked TOWARDS the moving vehicles in his vain - and deadly to himself - attempt to show his anger at another driver.  Common sense should have ruled the day.  If it had, Mr. Ward would have lived to race another day and - judging but what many have said - have had a good, successful racing career ahead of him.  
I think those who are trying to pin the blame on Tony Stewart are the ones who are looking for a scapegoat.  And many of those who are doing it in this venue, are people who CLAIM to believe in personal responsibility.  Mr. Ward displayed extremely irresponsible behavior and it cost him his life.  Sad to say, he could have chosen to take a different course of action and, therefore, he is responsible and had to endure the ultimate consequences for his reckless actions.


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LMAO!  The grand jury is Tony's PR People!  


No, his PR people did a good job getting the DA to publicize the toxicology results at the PRESS CONFERENCE.  What do they have to do with anything besides smearing the dead victim that can't defend himself.  Pretty shrewd...


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No, his PR people did a good job getting the DA to publicize the toxicology results at the PRESS CONFERENCE.  What do they have to do with anything besides smearing the dead victim that can't defend himself.  Pretty shrewd...


OF COURSE...must be a conspiracy of some sort. Nothing can ever be as it really is.
There must be ulterior motives and cover-ups....DUH!!!!!  


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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OF COURSE...must be a conspiracy of some sort. Nothing can ever be as it really is.
There must be ulterior motives and cover-ups....DUH!!!!!  


Public relations firms aren't conspirators.  They are REAL...No cover up...Just public relations for a public figure.  Man, I thought you would know a little about them.  


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