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I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up..
After the initial elation, there is a lot of criticism about the swap. I think it's lit more by evidence he walked away from his post than the 5 for 1 trade with the Taliban.
The Pentagon seems to think he went AWOL
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-concluded-2010-bergdahl-walked-23961804

I doubt he'll get a court marshal, but I guessing a dishonorable or general discharge would be appropriate at the very least...after all, six soldiers died in the search for him.


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Making deals with terrorists?

What's next, lunch at the White House?
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This was bad all the way around; poor decision; handled badly!
WTF was administration thinking!

I just came back from DC and this was the talk around town on Sun.
Actually heard rumors about this happening on FRI night when I
was at 8th & I St. barracks. SecNav was there and I overheard
just a few words that later meant something when deal was announced.
No one that I spoke with agreed with what was done.


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Quoted from joebxr
This was bad all the way around; poor decision; handled badly!
WTF was administration thinking!

I just came back from DC and this was the talk around town on Sun.
Actually heard rumors about this happening on FRI night when I
was at 8th & I St. barracks. SecNav was there and I overheard
just a few words that later meant something when deal was announced.
No one that I spoke with agreed with what was done.


"Bad all the way around" doesn't even begin to describe what this is and really joe....What the hell is this?

WTF is going on? How is this even possible?

We are trading five total hardcore top jihadi leaders for...Not a soldier captured during combat....But a fu*kin' traitor?

http://nypost.com/2014/06/02/six-soldiers-died-searching-for-deserter-pow-fueling-backlash/







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Unbelievable  
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In June 2011 the Army announced that it had promoted Bergdahl to the rank of sergeant. Bergdahl, now 27, is assigned to the 1st Battalion, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division at Fort Richardson, now Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, in Alaska.

That was Bergdahl’s second promotion since he was listed as Missing-Captured on June 30, 2009. He was promoted to the rank of specialist in June 2010.


http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=122375


Hmmmm...So two years after the guy deserted, he gets promoted twice?  


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And he allegedly wrote this email to his parents BEFORE "deserting".

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“I am sorry for everything here,” he wrote. “These people need help, yet what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they are nothing and that they are stupid.”

Bergdahl also complained about fellow soldiers. The battalion commander was a “conceited old fool,” he said, and the only “decent” sergeants, planning to leave the platoon “as soon as they can,” told the privates — Bergdahl then among them — “to do the same.”

“I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools,” he concluded. “I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting.”


There is quite the misinformation campaign going on.  What are the FACTS(as box likes to say)?  Is it the official story from the White House - or the story coming out of the military ranks?


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You know....I just have to ask this hypothetical and I really do hate 'What if' scenarios. In this case though, I think it's appropriate.

"What if" you were the captured soldier (not this traitorous piss) and knew that our government was going to secure your release by freeing five totally evil psycho jihadi leaders, that you totally know are going to be fu*king 'rockstars' when let go?

Could you live with that? Knowing that these animals are going to kill thousands more.

Would you try to stop it?




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Quoted from CICERO
And he allegedly wrote this email to his parents BEFORE "deserting".



There is quite the misinformation campaign going on.  What are the FACTS(as box likes to say)?  Is it the official story from the White House - or the story coming out of the military ranks?


Oh, you want the official WH statement?

Why just ask Susan Rice....You remember her, right?....Ms. 'Spontaneous Protest' spokesperson....

He's a fu*king HERO

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"Sergeant Bergdahl wasn't simply a hostage; he was an American prisoner of war captured on the battlefield." She adds, "We have a sacred obligation that we have upheld since the founding of our republic to do our utmost to bring back our men and women who are taken in battle, and we did that in this instance."  


  


Impeach Obama....End this madness.





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What if you are the parents of 1 of the 6 that were killed, or the other members of
his troop that put themselves in harms way to try and find him. How do you feel today
knowing he ran away of his own accord, is being touted as a hero of some sort, and
these 5 soon to be terrorist senior "kill Americans" leaders that will again plan ways to attack
US citizens on US soil. His Sargent was interviewed today and clearly states the same
disgust, and outright called him a deserter, and that it's a total insult to those that lost
their lives and those that served alongside him and tried to find him.
WTF was Obama thinking and Who the PHUQUE advised him....HUGE PHUQUE-UP!


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I understand the "no soldier left behind" stuff, I really do..But this had disaster written all over it..from the 5 for 1 swap, to what the Pentagon had concluded about Bergdahl  and his disappearance, to his father and some of the causes he seems to support....Unless this is part of something bigger...

And Susan Rice??? She has to be the biggest Patsy in political history


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Is it common practice for the army to risk lives, and use resources to go after and "rescue" a deserter?  


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Quoted from joebxr
What if you are the parents of 1 of the 6 that were killed, or the other members of
his troop that put themselves in harms way to try and find him. How do you feel today
knowing he ran away of his own accord, is being touted as a hero of some sort, and
these 5 soon to be terrorist senior "kill Americans" leaders that will again plan ways to attack
US citizens on US soil. His Sargent was interviewed today and clearly states the same
disgust, and outright called him a deserter, and that it's a total insult to those that lost
their lives and those that served alongside him and tried to find him.
WTF was Obama thinking and Who the PHUQUE advised him....HUGE PHUQUE-UP!


"kill Americans" will not be the primary goal while sunning themselves by the pool and fathering 30 or so of the next generation of killers for the next year in Qatar.

Like I said......Rockstars!









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Almost forgot.....


Posting an obligatory Boxy "what scandal?" response.

Didn't want to leave you out brah!




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Quoted from CICERO
Is it common practice for the army to risk lives, and use resources to go after and "rescue" a deserter?  

Can't speak for Army, but never heard of that being the
case in Marines...specifically know of an AWOL in Vietnam...
we didn't actively go after him, but then again, he didn't run over to the Cong...he
was holed up in a hooker house when the MP's found him.

Personally, if I had deserted in combat, I'm not so sure I want
US forces looking for me or finding me...I'd be looking to hide and get
as far away and lost as possible.

This whole thing stinks of something, but I can't put my finger on it.
Father growing beard and learning to speak Afghan; son not able to
properly communicate in English anymore; father building a tent in the
wilderness to help son reenter civilian life; etc., etc.....something stinks pretty bad.
Obama phuqued up on this one big time...sorry! Someone needs to be hung out to dry
over this fiasco.

PS - and Cissy, just so you know, I am not sitting back quietly and only bitching on the forum.
I just finished writing my letters outlining my disgust and feelings over this whole
fiasco to each Senator and Congressman serving NY.....I would ask others to do the same.
Let them hear our voices and utter disgust.


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