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joebxr
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Sorry, I forget, you can't keep up with the thread.  Ummm...Obama gave an order to kill a U.S. citizen that is protected by the Bill of Rights, and specifically in this case, the 5th Amendment.  The drone operator carried out the order.  The victim hasn't had a day in court(like the victims of My Lai).  The order to kill an American citizen was made in secret.  If there is ever a court hearing, and the evidence is examined and questioned by the victim's attorney, the order to kill an American citizen may also be an illegal order.  But, with no due process or transparency, it will just remain an extrajudicial execution of an American citizen.

See moron...evidence, cross examination, discovery, witness statements, are all the things that help find the truth.  Something you seem to not understand or don't care about, when it comes to the execution of a U.S. citizen.

If the My Lai massacre never saw the light of day, and there was no hearing, then no crime.

Nice deflection MORON...I was directing to your specific comments and showed YOU ARE WRONG,
so you spin it around....and to be accurate the "thread" is titled "Thank you for your service" not
"Hey, Cissy wants to talk about everything he wants to talk about!"
Try to keep up.  I know it's difficult when you are comprehension challenged, but at least try!!!!


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See RP?  Some on this board look at military service as an evil, not something to be proud of.  


Killing people is not honorable.

Self defense is saving a life.

If the military actually took action against those who have wronged us, they would have a much better image.

Killing Iraqis, Afghanis and random drone attacks around the globe is not honorable.

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Box A Rox
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Cicero and I agree.  Sometimes, in certain circumstances, lethal force is justified and legal.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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CICERO
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Cicero and I agree.  Sometimes, in certain circumstances, lethal force is justified and legal.  


Who decides if it's justified lethal force?  Who decides whether the circumstance required lethal force?


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Killing people is not honorable.
Self defense is saving a life.
If the military actually took action against those who have wronged us, they would have a much better image.
Killing Iraqis, Afghanis and random drone attacks around the globe is not honorable.


Attacking people working in high rise towers is not honorable.
Killing passengers on planes that are flown as bombs is not honorable.
Setting off bombs at happy non-violent non-political events is not honorable.
Detonating bombs in subways is not honorable.
Strapping bombs on young impressionable women to blow themselves up is not honorable.
Attacking and killing unarmed embassy diplomats that have helped your country is not honorable.
Chopping off the heads of missionaries and aid workers is not honorable.
Grabbing all these poor defenseless young girls is not honorable.
Trying to blow up planes of innocent people is not honorable.



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joebxr
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Who decides if it's justified lethal force?  Who decides whether the circumstance required lethal force?


AHHH...there's that spin again.  In the end, no matter what answer is provided,
Cissy Wah-Wah will take it in another direction to show the answer is not right and
then challenge it some other way...SPIN AWAY OH MASTER!!!!! Maybe you can get it right
this time, because your "legal" was waayyyyyyyy  wrong!!!!!!


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CICERO
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Attacking people working in high rise towers is not honorable.
Killing passengers on planes that are flown as bombs is not honorable.
Setting off bombs at happy non-violent non-political events is not honorable.
Detonating bombs in subways is not honorable.
Strapping bombs on young impressionable women to blow themselves up is not honorable.
Attacking and killing unarmed embassy diplomats that have helped your country is not honorable.
Chopping off the heads of missionaries and aid workers is not honorable.
Grabbing all these poor defenseless young girls is not honorable.
Trying to blow up planes of innocent people is not honorable.



You forgot taking pictures of yourself pissing on human beings you just killed.


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joebxr
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You forgot taking pictures of yourself pissing on human beings you just killed.


Well, you finally got something right!


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AHHH...there's that spin again.  In the end, no matter what answer is provided,
Cissy Wah-Wah will take it in another direction to show the answer is not right and
then challenge it some other way...SPIN AWAY OH MASTER!!!!! Maybe you can get it right
this time, because your "legal" was waayyyyyyyy  wrong!!!!!!


Same direction Joey.  Who can give the order to kill a US citizen?  Very simple.  No spin, just a legal question.

You did fight to defend the constitution - right?  


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CICERO
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Well, you finally got something right!


Oh...and you forgot indefinite detention without criminal charges too.


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Same direction Joey.  Who can give the order to kill a US citizen?  Very simple.  No spin, just a legal question.

You did fight to defend the constitution - right?  


Same answer Cissy...your attempt at fact of attack being legal is baseless and wrong, so man up!

Why don't you answer your own question about who and let us reply to you? Should be real interesting to hear your take.


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Cicero and I agree.  Sometimes, in certain circumstances, lethal force is justified and legal.  




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Why don't you answer your own question about who and let us reply to you? Should be real interesting to hear your take.


I did answer.  A jury of your peers.  It's called the 5th and 6th amendments.  You know, it's in that thing called the US Constitution. You allegedly took an oath to uphold it.


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Lol.  Still don't want touch the question?  Who decides if the circumstance required lethal force?


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I did answer.  A jury of your peers.  It's called the 5th and 6th amendments.  You know, it's in that thing called the US Constitution. You allegedly took an oath to uphold it.

No Cissy, you didn't answer...here's the question you posed. Why not present your side of it like I asked?
Try to follow along...I know it's way over your bedtime, so it can wait until tomorrow if you want.
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Who decides if it's justified lethal force?  Who decides whether the circumstance required lethal force?



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