Yes, very "In your face" stuff. It's very brilliant and insightful.
Awwww Wah-wah, what's wrong. Don't you like being exposed? At least the humor in my post is because it's made in jest, unlike the hilarious laughter derived from yours.......
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Ok, who WAS Al Awlaki going to kill if the drone didn't kill him first? Who was in Al Awlaki's cross hairs just before the SWAT had to take him out first. What was his evil plot? This is the scenario...right?
Who did Hitler actually kill himself? There is no evidence that Hitler ever killed anyone. Yet Hitler was responsible for millions of deaths. Planning, funding, instruction, promoting, aiding murders is not murder... yet it can cause murders to happen.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Who did Hitler actually kill himself? There is no evidence that Hitler ever killed anyone. Yet Hitler was responsible for millions of deaths. Planning, funding, instruction, promoting, aiding murders is not murder... yet it can cause murders to happen.
Yup, and there was something call the Nuremberg Trials that justified it. A US citizen doesn't even get the benefit of the justice system that Hitler did. Thanks for pointing that out box. You're real patriot and defender of the Constitution and rule of law. Lol
Yup, and there was something call the Nuremberg Trials that justified it. A US citizen doesn't even get the benefit of the justice system that Hitler did. Thanks for pointing that out box. You're real patriot and defender of the Constitution and rule of law. Lol
You miss the point Cicero (on purpose of course). If your BFFL Awlaki had been apprehended, he would have stood trial for his crimes. If Hitler had been apprehended he also would have been tried. If both Hitler and Al Awlaki could have been captured it would have been preferable. Both were inaccessible targets far from US control and a capture venture would likely not have been successful.
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Sanaa, Yemen (CNN) Nov, 2010 -- Yemeni prosecutors Tuesday accused an American-born militant cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki, with incitement to kill foreigners, a legal action that reflects the government's newfound resolve to hunt down the notorious al Qaeda figure. Linked by U.S. authorities to Fort Hood shooting suspect Maj. Nidal Hasan and the suspect accused in the Christmas Day airline bombing attempt, al-Awlaki was charged in absentia at a court hearing in Sanaa.
Two other suspected militants were charged Tuesday: Hisham Mohammed Asim, 19, of Taiz was charged with al Qaeda links and last month killing a French national who worked for an Austrian oil and gas company in Yemen.. Also charged in absentia was Othman al-Awlaki, Anwar al-Awlaki's cousin, who is also charged with inciting violence against foreigners.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You miss the point Cicero (on purpose of course). If your BFFL Awlaki had been apprehended, he would have stood trial for his crimes. If Hitler had been apprehended he also would have been tried. If both Hitler and Al Awlaki could have been captured it would have been preferable. Both were inaccessible targets far from US control and a capture venture would likely not have been successful.
There was a legal declaration of war on Germany? Was there a war declared against a US citizen?
There was a legal declaration of war on Germany? Was there a war declared against a US citizen?
Cissy keeps supporting a known (and dead) terrorist. Again, if possible the mission was to capture this terrorist. If capture were impossible, then killing him was the next best option (just like a SWAT TEAM).
Yemen had tried to capture (or kill) this terrorist but failed resulting in the loss of life of it's operatives. The USA had even a less likely chance of capture, but they did find a possibility of killing this high level Al Qaeda terrorist, and accomplished that mission.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Cissy keeps supporting a known (and dead) terrorist. Again, if possible the mission was to capture this terrorist. If capture were impossible, then killing him was the next best option (just like a SWAT TEAM).
Yemen had tried to capture (or kill) this terrorist but failed resulting in the loss of life of it's operatives. The USA had even a less likely chance of capture, but they did find a possibility of killing this high level Al Qaeda terrorist, and accomplished that mission.
The CIA doesn't have law enforcement capabilities.
So the administration must have the evidence showing their effort and a warrant issued to capture a US citizen.
The CIA doesn't have law enforcement capabilities.
So the administration must have the evidence showing their effort and a warrant issued to capture a US citizen.
Poor Cicero... He so misses his BFFL, a terrorist! From the US attorney General:
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The decision to target Anwar al-Aulaqi was additionally subjected to extensive policy review at the highest levels of the U.S. Government, and senior U.S. officials also briefed the appropriate committees of Congress on the possibility of using lethal force against al--Aulaq i. Indeed, the Administration informed the relevant congressional oversight committees that it had approved the use of lethal force against al-Aulaqi in February 2010 -- well over a year before the operation in question -- and the legal justification was subsequently explained in detail to those committees, well before action was taken against Aulaqi. This extensive outreach is consistent with the Administration's strong and continuing commitment to congressional oversight of our counterterrorism operations -- oversight which ensures, as the President stated during his State of the Union address, that our actions are "consistent with our laws and system of checks and balances."
The Supreme Court has long "made clear that a state of war is not a blank check for the President when it comes to the rights of the Nation's citizens." Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, 542 U.S. 507, 536 (2004); Youngstown Sheet Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 578, 5 87 (1952). But the Court's case law and longstanding practice and principle also make clear that the Constitution does not prohibit the Government it establishes from taking action to protect the American people from the threats posed by terrorists who hide in faraway countries and continually plan and launch plots against the U.S. homeland. The decision to target Anwar al-Aulaqi was lawful, it was considered, and it was just.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The CIA doesn't have law enforcement capabilities.
So the administration must have the evidence showing their effort and a warrant issued to capture a US citizen.
After reading these posts....may I just say.............CICERO.....YOU ARE DAMN GOOD!!! REALLY!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
After reading these posts....may I just say.............CICERO.....YOU ARE DAMN GOOD!!! REALLY!!!
Cicero!!! You have a fan!!!
However Cicero's post on this subject are largely irrelevant. ( Cissy is BIG on OPINION, but SHORT on FACTS!)
The CIA has three traditional principal activities... ~ gathering information about foreign governments, corporations, and individuals; ~ analyzing that information, along with intelligence gathered by other U.S. intelligence agencies, in order to provide national security intelligence assessment to senior United States policymakers; ~ and, upon the request of the President of the United States, carrying out or overseeing covert activities and some tactical operations by its own employees, by members of the U.S. military, or by other partners.
(see Bumbler... If all you read is Right Wing BS, all you'll know is Right Wing BS)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The CIA does not have law enforcement capabilities. The CIA cannot serve a warrant to a US citizen suspected of treason(Al Awlaki was never charged with a crime or issued a warrant). So I'm not really sure how box's SWAT scenario fits into the killing of Al Awlaki. I guess it sounds like a plausible explanation, but it's not a very accurate analogy.
We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
The CIA has three traditional principal activities... ~ gathering information about foreign governments, corporations, and individuals;(Creating terrorists)
~ analyzing that information, along with intelligence gathered by other U.S. intelligence agencies, in order to provide national security intelligence assessment to senior United States policymakers; (Spying on everyone on Earth)
~ and, upon the request of the President of the United States, carrying out or overseeing covert activities and some tactical operations by its own employees, by members of the U.S. military, or by other partners.(Creating terrorists for job security)
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