Quoted from joebxr

ISIL = Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
ISIS = Islamic State of Iraq and Syria or Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham
In 2014 the group proclaimed itself to be a Worldwide Caliphate
and renamed itself IS = Islamic State

Quoted from 55tbird

take a Valium....I was only saying that the questioner was wrong about not being able to take out a life of an ideology with weapons...
And you're wrong about Radical Muslims not "needing" a state...it's what ISIS is all about...it's why they are staking out claims in Syria and Iraq.

You could argue that's exactly the way to beat them...let them take land and set up a state, then you have an absolute target to take out.

Quoted from CICERO

Yes, ISIL didn't exist before Iraq was overthrown.

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The group we now call ISIL was a rebranding of Al Qaeda in Iraq, originally known as Jama’at al-Tawhid w’al-Jihad (JTWJ) or the “Party of Monotheism and Jihad,” which was founded in 1999 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian would-be mujahedeen with a criminal past.

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The roots of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham

The roots of ISIS go back to Oct. 15, 2006, when what is known as the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) was established. That groups was formed by uniting several groups, most notably al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia, led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Mujahedeen Shura Council in Iraq, and Jund al-Sahhaba [Soldiers of the Prophet’s Companions].

ISI spreads to Syria

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi played a key role in establishing Jabhat al-Nusra. But he considered Abu Mohammed al-Golani, Nusra’s leader, to be his subordinate with a duty to obey him. So Baghdadi announced the dissolution of Jabhat al-Nusra and the integration of its members into ISI, with the new organization being called the Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham.

Golani refused the order, but ISIS appeared on the scene with strength anyway. ISIS quickly announced its areas of operations publicly and took control of wide areas without facing much resistance, benefitting from the Jabhat al-Nusra fighters who defected to ISIS.

Some estimates suggest that about 65% of Jabhat al-Nusra elements quickly declared their allegiance to ISIS. Most of those were non-Syrian jihadists. Entire brigades joined ISIS, among them was the Mujahedeen Shura Council led by Abu al-Atheer, whom ISIS appointed emir of Aleppo, and Jaish al-Muhajireen and al-Ansar, led by Omar al-Chechani.



Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/puls......html##ixzz3SKVUwIve

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The group we now call ISIL was a rebranding of Al Qaeda in Iraq, originally known as Jama’at al-Tawhid w’al-Jihad (JTWJ) or the “Party of Monotheism and Jihad,” which was founded in 1999 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian would-be mujahedeen with a criminal past.

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Following the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Jordanian Salafi Jihadist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and his militant group Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad, founded in 1999

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The Islamic State – aka Isis...The group originated in 1999 as Jamaat al-Tawhid wal-Jihad – quite a mouthful.

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Abu Musab al-Zarqawi founded the group in 1999 as "Jamaat al-Tawhid wa-l-Jihad," (JTJ) meaning roughly "Oneness and Jihad." In 2004, Zarqawi pledged himself and his fighters to Osama bin Laden and changed the name of the group to Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). In 2006, AQI announced it was changing its name yet again, this time to the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI).

Quoted from joebxr

WIKI:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/sep/21/islamic-state-isis-isil-daesh

http://www.newsweek.com/etymology-islamic-state-270752

and so on, and so on, and so on!!!!

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Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) are foreign organizations that are designated by the Secretary of State in accordance with section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), as amended. FTO designations play a critical role in our fight against terrorism and are an effective means of curtailing support for terrorist activities and pressuring groups to get out of the terrorism business.

12/17/2004  Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (formerly al-Qa'ida in Iraq)

Quoted from CICERO

ISIL had a state - Iraq.  The West is attempting to redraw the boarders in the Middle East.  There were no WMD's in Iraq...The west is either stupid or there is a larger plan.  

Are you still willing to sacrifice the lives of your children to prevent ISIL from splitting up Iraq and Syria?

Quoted from CICERO

You forgot this "so on and so on, and so on!!!!!"  From the STATE DEPARTMENT


http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

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10/8/1999  al-Qa’ida (AQ)

Quoted from joebxr

Thank you for confirming what I have been trying to tell you!

Quoted from CICERO

Oh...I thought you were talking about ISIS.  I must have missed when you changed to Al Qaeda.

Quoted from joebxr

You must have missed the whole story and how names changed after they began in 1999!
Sorry you still can't keep up and have issues with reading comprehension, as usual.
I can only explain it all to you...I can't understand it for you!

Quoted from CICERO

Yeah...That's it.  ISIS was around before the U.S. invasion into Iraq.  Sorry State Department...but you should check with JOEY before listing ISIS as a terrorist organization in 2004, after the U.S. invasion.  Silly State Department, ISIS has been around since 1999.  Sorry for not listening to you JOEY, I should learn my lesson about information on government webpages like the state department - they are wrong as usual.

Quoted from joebxr

No Sissy, you should learn to read and follow along so you can at least make an attempt
to understand.  I've given you enough locations to check that are all consistent and explain
the evolution, and what you link to State Department also supports...but of course that
means it all began in 1999 and would not support your false theory, so you continue
to blah blah blah!!!  Told you, can't understand it for you.  

Quoted from CICERO

Yup, false theory...I've ignored the state department's listing of ISIS recognized as a terrorist organization in 2004 instead of 1999.  It was formed in 1999 like you said, ISIS is Al Qaeda.  So Al Qaeda was in Iraq before the U.S. invasion.  Got it!  

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The group we now call ISIL was a rebranding of Al Qaeda in Iraq, originally known as Jama’at al-Tawhid w’al-Jihad (JTWJ) or the “Party of Monotheism and Jihad,” which was founded in 1999 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian would-be mujahedeen with a criminal past.