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Federal Taxes at Historic Lows

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“One of the great ironies of the rise of the tea party movement was that it
coincided with the lowest total tax burdens seen in at least 30 years… Overall the
trend is downward. The average filer saw her effective tax rate drop from 22 percent
in 1979 to 18.1 percent in 2010. Rates on the bottom 20 percent of tax filers went
from 7.5 percent to 1.5 percent, while the top 20 percent of earners saw a more modest
decrease, from 27.1 to 24.0 percent over the same period.”

Washington Post



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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This chart only includes the 53% that actually pay federal income taxes. right?


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WASHINGTON (AP) -- As millions of Americans race to meet Tuesday's tax deadline, their chances of getting audited are lower than they have been in years.

Budget cuts and new responsibilities are straining the Internal Revenue Service's ability to police tax returns. This year, the IRS will have fewer agents auditing returns than at any time since at least the 1980s.

Taxpayer services are suffering, too, with millions of phone calls to the IRS going unanswered.

"We keep going after the people who look like the worst of the bad guys," IRS Commissioner John Koskinen said in an interview. "But there are going to be some people that we should catch, either in terms of collecting the revenue from them or prosecuting them, that we're not going to catch."

Better technology is helping to offset some budget cuts.

If you report making $40,000 in wages and your employer tells the IRS you made $50,000, the agency's computers probably will catch that. The same is true for investment income and many common deductions that are reported to the IRS by financial institutions.

But if you operate a business that deals in cash, with income or expenses that are not independently reported to the IRS, your chances of getting caught are lower than they have been in years.

Last year, the IRS audited less than 1 percent of all returns from individuals, the lowest rate since 2005. This year, Koskinen said, "The numbers will go down."

Koskinen was confirmed as IRS commissioner in December. He took over an agency under siege on several fronts.

Last year, the IRS acknowledged agents improperly singled out conservative groups for extra scrutiny when they applied for tax-exempt status from 2010 to 2012. The revelation has led to five ongoing investigations, including three by congressional committees, and outraged lawmakers who control the agency's budget.

The IRS also is implementing large parts of President Barack Obama's health law, including enforcing the mandate that most people get health insurance. Republicans in Congress abhor the law, putting another bull's-eye on the agency's back.

The animosity is reflected in the IRS budget, which has declined from $12.1 billion in 2010 to $11.3 billion in the current budget year.

Obama has proposed a 10 percent increase for next year; Republicans are balking.

Rep. Ander Crenshaw, R-Fla., chairman of the House subcommittee that oversees the IRS budget, called the request "both meaningless and pointless" because it exceeds spending caps already set by Congress.

Koskinen said he suspects some people think that if they cut funds to the IRS, the agency won't be able to implement the health law. They're wrong, he said.

The IRS is legally obligated to enforce the health law, Koskinen said. That means budget savings will have to be found elsewhere.

Koskinen said he can cut spending in three areas: enforcement, taxpayer services and technology. Technology upgrades can only be put off for so long, he said, so enforcement and taxpayer services are suffering.

Last year, only 61 percent of taxpayers calling the IRS for help got it. This year, Koskinen said he expects the numbers to be similar. To help free up operators, callers with complicated tax questions are directed to the agency's website.

"The problem with complicated questions is they take longer," Koskinen said.

Your chances of getting audited vary greatly, based on your income. The more you make, the more likely you are to get a letter from the IRS.

Only 0.9 percent of people making less than $200,000 were audited last year. That's the lowest rate since the IRS began publishing the statistic in 2006.

By contrast, 10.9 percent of people making $1 million or more were audited. That's the lowest rate since 2010.

Only 0.6 percent of business returns were audited, but the rate varied greatly depending on the size of the business. About 16 percent of corporations with more than $10 million in assets were audited.

Most people don't have much of an opportunity to cheat on their taxes, said Elizabeth Maresca, a former IRS lawyer who now teaches law at Fordham University.

Your employer probably reports your wages to the IRS, your bank reports interest income, your broker reports investment income and your lender reports the amount of interest you paid on your mortgage.

"Anybody who's an employee, who gets paid by an employer, has a limited ability to take risks on their tax returns," Maresca said. "I think people who own their own business or are self-employed have a much greater opportunity (to cheat), and I think the IRS knows that, too."

One flag for the IRS is when your deductions or expenses don't match your income, said Joseph Perry, the partner in charge of tax and business services at Marcum LLP, an accounting firm. For example, if you deduct $70,000 in real estate taxes and mortgage interest, but only report $100,000 in income.

"That would at least beg the question, how are you living?" Perry said.

Koskinen said the IRS could scrutinize more returns - and collect billions more in revenue - with more resources. The president's budget proposal says the IRS would collect an additional $6 for every $1 increase in the agency's enforcement budget.

Koskinen said he makes that argument all the time, but for some reason, it's not playing well in Congress.

"I say that and everybody shrugs and goes on about their business," Koskinen said. "I have not figured out either philosophically or psychologically why nobody seems to care whether we collect the revenue or not."


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We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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This chart only includes the 53% that actually pay federal income taxes. right?


INCOME TAX?  Most households pay FEDERAL TAX.
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Tax Policy Center data show that only about 17 percent of households did not pay any
federal income tax or payroll tax in 2009, In 2007, a more typical year, the figure was 14 percent.
Most of the people who pay neither federal income tax nor payroll taxes are low-income people
who are elderly, unable to work due to a serious disability, or students, most of whom subsequently
become taxpayers.
Moreover, low-income households as a group do, in fact, pay federal taxes.  Congressional Budget
Office data show that the poorest fifth of households paid an average of 4.0 percent of
their incomes in federal taxes in 2007, the latest year for which these data are available.
Data from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy show that the poorest fifth of households
paid a stunning 12.3 percent of their incomes in state and local taxes in 2011.
61 percent of those that owed no federal income tax in a given year are working households.  
The remainder of those who pay no income tax are primarily elderly, disabled, or students.




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INCOME TAX?  Most households pay FEDERAL TAX.


Payroll tax and income tax are not the same... Total Federal tax includes income, SS and Medicare/Medicaid taxes...
I'm talking about Federal Income tax, according to the Tax Policy center, the figure is presently 43% who pay no Income tax...
So for those that do pay tax, they are supporting the "poor" just as much as the "rich"


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Payroll tax and income tax are not the same... Total Federal tax includes income, SS and Medicare/Medicaid taxes...
I'm talking about Federal Income tax, according to the Tax Policy center, the figure is presently 43% who pay no Income tax...
So for those that do pay tax, they are supporting the "poor" just as much as the "rich"


I wish the Rich gave as much as the rest of us.  The reality is that you and I likely pay a higher percentage
of our income in taxes than the top 1%.


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I wish the Rich gave as much as the rest of us.  The reality is that you and I likely pay a higher percentage
of our income in taxes than the top 1%.


We need to go to a VAT in place of income tax, excluding basic items so it's about equivalent to the poor's tax responsibility now. The more you spend the more you pay...boost the customs tax to keep people from doing the end around. eliminate the 117K income limit for SS tax... That will solve a lot of problems.


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We need to go to a VAT in place of income tax, excluding basic items so it's about equivalent to the poor's tax responsibility now. The more you spend the more you pay...boost the customs tax to keep people from doing the end around. eliminate the 117K income limit for SS tax... That will solve a lot of problems.


VAT would create an even larger black market.  The poor can't afford income tax, what makes you think they can afford their iPhone's with an additional tax built into it?

You institute a VAT tax, and Americans will actually see how broke everyone is.  


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Why the Top 1% Pay a Lower Rate Than You Do


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because a 'progressive' tax system is a system of lies told by politicians to make the 'poor plebs' think they are being served
for said elected leaders......IT'S A LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FLAT TAX KEEPS EVERYONE HONEST......

or

THERE SHOULD BE NO INCOME TAX

or

THERE SHOULD BE NO SALES TAXES

IT CANNOT BE ALL TAXES ALL THE TIME....THERE IS NO HUMAN WAY TO MAKE IT HONEST AND KEEP TRACK OF IT.....


ARE WE THAT STUPID THAT WE THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF EXTORTION IN AMERICA NO MATTER WHAT
THE F'EN LABEL IS?

FEES?
PROGRESSIVE?
FLAT?
EARNED INCOME CREDIT?
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.........

and now the F'EN IRS want's to 'deputize' tax preparers.....ASK YOURSELF WHY? look to the horizon for virtual value/hidden value
digital world of the future......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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