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it's ALL global....

global energy
global money
global internet
global trade
etc etc etc......

THAT'S THE GOAL....Obama saved us from the previous stick in the mud non-global hippy Osama....

Putin is a 'pocket leader'


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Americans aren't scared of the "terrorists" anymore...Time to resurrect the Cold War enemy...nuclear war really scares the sh*t out of Americans, that should rekindle a sense of nationalism in America.  The state always needs a boogeyman, enter stage right, RUSSIA!


Again, Cicero is peddling FEAR.  Are you afraid of Russia Cicero?  If you look back at our history, it
isn't the "State" who needs a boogeyman... IT'S THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO PREACHES FEAR!
Obsessive FEAR of WMD's, didn't come from the Democrats... It came from YOUR PARTY.  The GOP!
(Although Cissy denies any party affiliation... his heart is clearly with the Rabid Right)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The Cold War never really ended -- just hibernated.  I never trusted Communist Russia and never will.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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The Cold War never really ended -- just hibernated.  I never trusted Communist Russia and never will.


BINGO..........GOV ALMIGHTY succeeded!!
YOU don't trust communist Russia cause GOV ALMIGHTY'S propaganda machine makes sure of it!!!

SHEOPLE....the gift that keeps on giving!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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BINGO..........GOV ALMIGHTY succeeded!!
YOU don't trust communist Russia cause GOV ALMIGHTY'S propaganda machine makes sure of it!!!

SHEOPLE....the gift that keeps on giving!!

He's part of the machine (actually a wannabe), so what do you expect?


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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BINGO..........GOV ALMIGHTY succeeded!!
YOU don't trust communist Russia cause GOV ALMIGHTY'S propaganda machine makes sure of it!!!

SHEOPLE....the gift that keeps on giving!!


I don't trust Communist Russia because I have relatives and friends who lived under their brutal regime.  Don't need the government to tell me who to trust or not to trust.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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  Don't need the government to tell me who to trust or not to trust.


too late.......GOV ALMIGHTY already did!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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BINGO..........GOV ALMIGHTY succeeded!!
YOU don't trust communist Russia cause GOV ALMIGHTY'S propaganda machine makes sure of it!!!

SHEOPLE....the gift that keeps on giving!!


But Bumbler trusts Russian GOV ALMIGHTY... he even quotes RT straight from the Russian GOVT!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The fault in Ukraine is not Russia's, it is the US' – US former Treasury official



The fault in Ukraine is not Russia’s, it is the US’. The US is the one who organized, financed and provoked the coup, and the US was incompetent and lost control of the coup to the ultranationalists who threat to the Russians in the Crimea. So, it is purely normal for the Russian government to react as Ukraine is not an area of the United States’ strategic interests, Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and a contributor to Global Research, told the Voice of Russia.

Why do you call the US media portrayal of the situation as the absence of integrity?

Well, the American media, since the final years of the Clinton regime, is a propaganda ministry for the government. We no longer have independent print or TV media, they are owned by five large firms. They are no longer run by journalists, they are run by former government officials and corporate advertising executives. And the value of the firms is they have federal broadcast licenses. They can’t go against the government because they wouldn’t be able to retain their licenses. So, the free and dispersed independent American media ceased to exist around 1997.

And in your opinion, why did that happen?

I don’t know if they were getting ready to control the information, or whether it was just a favour to campaign donors. The campaign donors gave the Clintons a lot of money and they wanted to monopolize the media. So, that’s probably the reason, but the consequence is that the media is no longer independent. And if it goes against the government, first of all, the reporters lose their government sources, the editors get disciplined. And so, they don’t try to go against the government, they do not challenge the government’s position.

If you noticed, in the American media there is no challenge from the print or TV media to the government’s interpretation of what is happening in Ukraine or Syria, or anywhere. So, it is essentially a propaganda ministry. I’m the former editor of the Wall Street Journal and I can no longer recognize the American media as a media. It has nothing in common with the media that I had a permanent position in.

And what are the drawbacks of John Kerry’s policy towards Ukraine?

It is propagandistic, it is extremely provocative, it demonizes Russia, it demonizes the Russian President and the Russian government and it prepares the American public, which has no independent source of information, it prepares them for a war. They are being prepared to accept all sorts of punitive moves against Russia, any one of which could provoke a war. So, it is a very dangerous situation when the Secretary of State stands up and tells public lies.

The fault in Ukraine is not Russia’s, it is the US’. The US is the one who organized, financed and provoked the coup. And the US was incompetent and lost control of the coup to the ultranationalists. And these ultranationalists have threatened the Russian populations of Ukraine and threatened the Russian strategic interests. So, it is purely normal for the Russian government to react. Ukraine is not an area of the United States’ strategic interests.

And none of this information is conveyed to the American public by the official print and TV media. And so, you have a public which is in the dark about what is really happening and the Russian government is being demonized, and presented as a new Hitler or something. So, this is dangerous, it can get out of hand. In other words, there was no public constraint on the actions of the United States government, because the public is completely in the dark.

In that case, how dangerous can Kerry’s diplomacy regarding, for example, Ukraine be?

I think that Washington is embarrassed that it lost control of the coup and that these fanatical ultranationalists have come to the forefront, and have provoked the secession movements in Crimea and the eastern Ukraine, which are the traditional Russian provinces that Khrushchev stuck into Ukraine in the 1950es. These are not traditional Ukrainian territories.

And so, when these Russian-speaking areas see the threats being issued from Kiev, see the ban on the use of the Russian language in any official way, see the destruction of war memorials that celebrate the liberation of Ukraine by the Russian troops from the Nazis, when they see these hostile actions, it scares them, they don’t want these people coming in and threatening them the way that videos showed this ultranationalists threatening the American stooges that Washington intended to put in as the government.

You could see these videos where these Nazi-type thugs go in and shout, and scream at the alleged government in Kiev and drag people by their neckties, and slap them around, and carry brandish AK-47s – this is not a very amenable picture for people in the Crimea and eastern Ukraine to accept. They don’t want any of that and they are saying – we really are Russians and we want to go back to where we belong. That is just a natural response to this type of brutal behavior on the part of these ultranationalists.

So, that’s the whole purpose of the coup in Ukraine. It was part of Russia for 200 years and half of Ukraine was always part of Russia. So, the whole thing is madness and when the country behaves this reckless, it is a serious thing. It is like the fools who took the world to the WW I.


http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_.....asury-official-7211/


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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The fault in Ukraine is not Russia's, it is the US' – US former Treasury official

WOW!  Bumbler is a real fan of Russian Government Broadcasts!  He's totally bought into the latest
KGB views!

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The Voice Of Russia
About us
The Voice of Russia was the first radio station to broadcast internationally. On the air since
October 29th 1929, VOR has been shaping Russia’s image worldwide and introducing Russia
to the world and highlighting its opinions on global events.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Watch a News Anchor on Russia's Own State Media Condemn Russia's Invasion of Ukraine
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The news: Since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine, news channel RT has been roundly criticized for its rosy coverage, which critics have described as "propaganda." The channel is funded by state money, and as such, is considered a Kremlin mouthpiece — that is, until one of its anchors went spectacularly off-script.

On Monday, RT's Breaking the Set host Abby Martin, an American journalist based in Washington, ended her show by saying something "from [her] heart about the ongoing political crisis in Ukraine and Russia's military occupation of Crimea." What followed was a short monologue that may have surprised the channel's mostly pro-Russian viewers:

"Just because I work here, for RT, doesn't mean I don't have editorial independence, and I can't stress enough how strongly I am against any military intervention in sovereign nations' affairs. What Russia did is wrong," said Martin, shaking her papers with emphasis. "I will not sit here and apologize or defend military aggression."

Watch the full clip below:



What happened next? After the segment went viral, the National Journal reached out to RT headquarters to see if there were any consequences for Martin's off-script comments. "Contrary to the popular opinion, RT doesn't beat its journalists into submission, and they are free to express their own opinions, not just in private but on the air. This is the case with Abby's commentary on the Ukraine. We respect her views, and the views of all our journalists, presenters and program hosts, and there will be absolutely no reprimands made against Ms. Martin," the press office wrote in an email.

The statement also added that the channel will send Martin to Crimea "to give her an opportunity to make up her own mind from the epicenter of the story," which Martin has denied on Twitter:


Going forward. Reporters Without Borders previously described RT as a "step of the state to control information." The network has been criticized for its soft coverage of protests and human rights issues, such as the girl private Riot controversy.

But in his praise of Martin's stance, journalist Glenn Greenwald made the argument that American media's coverage of the Iraq War was similarly soft, and that journalists who spoke out in protest back then — isuch as MSNBC host Phil Donahue and NBC correspondent Peter Arnett — were quickly fired by their networks. RT may be a cheerleader for its country's wartime efforts, but it's certainly not the only one.



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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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What happened next? After the segment went viral, the National Journal reached out to RT headquarters to see if there were any consequences for Martin's off-script comments. "Contrary to the popular opinion, RT doesn't beat its journalists into submission, and they are free to express their own opinions, not just in private but on the air. This is the case with Abby's commentary on the Ukraine. We respect her views, and the views of all our journalists, presenters and program hosts, and there will be absolutely no reprimands made against Ms. Martin," the press office wrote in an email.

The statement also added that the channel will send Martin to Crimea "to give her an opportunity to make up her own mind from the epicenter of the story," which Martin has denied on Twitter:


Going forward. Reporters Without Borders previously described RT as a "step of the state to control information." The network has been criticized for its soft coverage of protests and human rights issues, such as the girl private Riot controversy.

But in his praise of Martin's stance, journalist Glenn Greenwald made the argument that American media's coverage of the Iraq War was similarly soft, and that journalists who spoke out in protest back then — isuch as MSNBC host Phil Donahue and NBC correspondent Peter Arnett — were quickly fired by their networks.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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WOW!  Bumbler is a real fan of Russian Government Broadcasts!  He's totally bought into the latest
KGB views!


Luckily the CIA doesn't manipulate media content in thee ole land of the free...Operation Mockingbird??

http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php


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too late.......GOV ALMIGHTY already did!


Maybe you are a tool of the government.  I am not.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
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Quoted from Box A Rox

WOW!  Bumbler is a real fan of Russian Government Broadcasts!  He's totally bought into the latest
KGB views!




Ya, whats up with that Bumble??  That's twice today you're quoting Russian propoganda sites


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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