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Box A Rox
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Another FAKE ObamaCare Horror Story.

This GOP FAKE Video Campaign is designed to grab the GULLIBLE among us
(like Cracker Graham) who will believe any anti-ObamaCare video.

For the TRUTH, SEE THE LA TIMES STORY BELOW:


Another bogus Obamacare story: The GOP's 'Bette'
(Remember "Bette" from the State of the Union GOP Response?)
LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-bette-20140130,0,1703947.story#axzz2vl7brVcN


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Uh huh.

Boxy, we already know where the lie is. It was termed the 'Lie of the Year'

But please, tell us more about how popular 'Obamacare' is with everyone.




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Box A Rox
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Uh huh.

Boxy, we already know where the lie is. It was termed the 'Lie of the Year'
But please, tell us more about how popular 'Obamacare' is with everyone.


Popular or not, it's the law of the land and brings Health Care to millions of Americans,
while saving the Tax Payer's $$$.

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Americans most likely to have an unfavorable view of the ACA are in the middle- and
higher- income groups, have private insurance, are in very good/excellent health, are
white, and live in rural areas.


Some Republicans Love Obamacare
2/12/14
http://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/post/some-republicans-love-obamacare


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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I'm still waiting for my $2500 a year savings that Obama promised me.
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Another Koch Brothers conspiracy!!!Lol

My insurance went up 100% last year....I must be part of the Koch Bros conspiracy!LOL


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Popular or not, it's the law of the land and brings Health Care to millions of Americans,
while saving the Tax Payer's $$$.


LOL. Whatever Boxy.

You're the only one here that believes this propaganda. And it is propaganda because there is no possible way you can back it up.







"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

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LOL. Whatever Boxy.
You're the only one here that believes this propaganda. And it is propaganda because there is no possible way you can back it up.


As if Bucky is interested in FACTS!  
Buck will believe his agenda... no matter what the FACTS!

Just some random  FACTS:
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Total healthcare spending in 2012 came in at $2.79 trillion—up just 3.7 percent over
the previous year and continuing a four-year trend of significantly reducing the amount
of growth in annual healthcare expenditures.

By way of comparison, before the recent recession, we were averaging annual increases
in health care spending of over 7 percent during the calendar years 2000-2008.

The current numbers represent the slowest rate of growth since the government began
tracking the data in 1960.


More?  What we spend for health care actually decreased as a percentage of the total economy
—down to 17.2 percent from 17.3 percent—for the first time since the Clinton Administration.


So how did ObamaCare help?
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~ The ACA provisions that base payments on the value of medical care rather
than the volume of care. More providers are now paid flat fees for an incoming patient
rather than their being paid for the number of services and tests provided to that patient.
This causes providers to be efficient in their care and avoid unnecessary tests and
procedures.

~ The increased number of Accountable Care Organizations which are designed to make
providers more accountable for the cost and quality of the care provided.

~ A decline in hospital re-admissions as a result of a provision in the ACA that does not
permit a hospital to bill Medicare when a patient returns within 30 days of discharge. While
these readmissions used to bring in substantial money to hospitals, and cost Medicare
accordingly, hat readmissions are down 10 percent since 2011.


Just some FACTS... but there are those among us who will reject FACT in favor of their Politics!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Popular or not, it's the law of the land and brings Health Care to millions of Americans,
while saving the Tax Payer's $$$.



Some Republicans Love Obamacare
2/12/14
http://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/post/some-republicans-love-obamacare


you know you save $$ when people make healthy choices....ie: diet exercise etc etc.....to make ACA actually affordable
everyone would have to be required to have an app that tracked them as to the time spent exercising and what they
ingested. My job is already 'promoting' stretching exercises via the insurance industry to lower healthcare costs...
and this is a small private company....

are we headed toward china?

having your own healthcare/insurance allows you to make your OWN PERSONAL CHOICES....NOT the choices required
by the taxpayers at large to lower cost via regulated/legislated insurance 'experts' who base it on actuarial science...

you are cattle


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Just some FACTS... but there are those among us who will reject FACT in favor of their Politics!  


Well obviously, you must favor the politics or you would have provided the link to the Forbes article.
Found out it was written by leftist pundit (and former Marvel / New World Entertainment president) Rick Unger. Who got his FACTS from an op-ed coined by
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Harvard economics professor and one time senior healthcare advisor to the 2008 Obama campaign, David Cutler
.

Yup, your FACTS seem totally unbiased and legit.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ri.....ealth-care-spending/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....f6cb769_story_1.html







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http://www.nixonpeabody.com/files/158014_Benefits_Alert_Wellness_Plans_8AUG2013.pdf



if you do not have a job and are participating in the ACA as one is required to do or get 'fined' do you get a wellness program
reward if you jog everyday?

having a wellness program at companies as is now the standard allows for employees to get discounts and lower premiums...

I just don't see the equity in this 'love fest'.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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President Barack Obama’s health-care law is becoming more entrenched,
with 64 percent of Americans now supporting it outright or backing small
changes.



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....on-burns-bright.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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If Obamacare is so popular why not put up a referendum on the ballot to keep the law or repeal it and let the people decide.
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If Obamacare is so popular why not put up a referendum on the ballot to keep the law or repeal it and let the people decide.


If Gun Control is so unpopular, why not put up a referendum on the ballot to keep
the law or repeal it and let the people decide.


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