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Rich may be in the mind of the beholder, but the SUPER RICH are a definable group.


and will always exist...even if $$ was removed it is all about access and POWER...go ahead and tout those gun laws..who
do you think pushes more legislation for control? NOT US....it's your 1%'ers protecting their compounds and the
government compound is NO DIFFERENT.

So does this answer your question TBird:
"What is the rich to you, Box?... really.. what do YOU consider to be rich?"


Why spend $1Billion?  It's an investment expense which they will reap rewards for decades and
make a huge profit on that political investment, at US Taxpayer expense!




...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Yadda Yadda Yadda.  
Your argument rests on telling me what I THINK!  

I don't "cherry pick" the rich...
I make no distinction between Rich Democrats, or Rich Republicans, they are equal scumbags
who made it big in this country on the backs of the middle class, if they then cheat the same
taxpayers by not paying their fair share.  
(But your argument does sound almost legitimate if you make it about my politics.)  

You've posted "even at 22%, those rich STILL pay more tax than you or I"...
OF COURSE THEY DO!!!  THAT IS THE POINT OF OUR PROGRESSIVE TAX SYSTEM.
THE MORE YOU MAKE THE MORE YOU SHOULD PAY.  But of course the tax system
states that the filthy rich should pay a higher rate... and as we all know, they pay
less than our rate!

Then you post:
My concern about government waste is about ALL who do it...
My concern about tax cheats and fraud is about ALL who do it...

Yea???

So you go after the guy who cheated the US taxpayers out of $4.27...
and I'll go after the guy who cheated the US taxpayers out of $4.27 million
But you want to treat everyone fairly!  



The tax system shouldn't based on how much you make, it should be based on how much you SPEND. The former invites the fraud and hiding of assets. the latter is MUCH easier to implement and enforce.
So, according to you, anyone making less than 1.6 million is not rich? OK... That's a relief for the 200K (single filer, US gov't definition of rich)-1.59 million group...

"So you go after the guy who cheated the US taxpayers out of $4.27...
and I'll go after the guy who cheated the US taxpayers out of $4.27 million
But you want to treat everyone fairly!  "


The total is the sum its parts...whether it be 1000 pieces to make the desired sum or one large piece, the sum is still the same.
Treating everyone fairly is holding them to same standard...which you don't seem to want to do... whether it's jealousy or something else, it doesn't change the impression that you'd seem to have a woody in regard to nailing the fat cats...


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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the tax system SHOULDN'T be based on how much you make....why? because it becomes a CAST system.....

we are fighting over 'fair share' in a CAST system.....




...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Gap, Inc Raises Minimum Wage To $10.
Retailer Gap, which owns Banana Republic and Old Navy along with other retail fashion lines,
announced they are increasing their minimum wage to $10 by 2016.  



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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yeah, like that's gonna help get them off of 'services'....college kids sure, I can see it...the 'extra' $2-$3/hour to help pay for college

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......they might as well steal from the store and get incarcerated at that rate....


minimum is STILL the bottom.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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