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Not really clear on your answer.  You would obey the so-called "republican pregnancy" law passed by an elected governing body?


the noose gets tighter


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Obama's track record on defending civil liberties is an embarrassment and a violation of the laws of this country.


I was watching him yesterday starting to sweat when trying to tell the American people he cares about our privacy rights, nobody bought it. Like many politicians before and I'm sure after he is a disgrace to our republic.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Not really clear on your answer.  You would obey the so-called "republican pregnancy" law passed by an elected governing body?


I made my answer clear... you just have a comprehension problem.

I would travel to a state (or country if necessary) that has CHOICE.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I made my answer clear... you just have a comprehension problem.

I would travel to a state (or country if necessary) that has CHOICE.


Oh, kinda like buying fireworks out of state, or buying guns prohibited by the SAFE Act from other states, or buying cigarettes from states with lower tax on them.  Got it.  You would disobey the arbitrary laws democratically legislated in the state you live in, and travel to a state that doesn't have the arbitrary law you don't agree with.  

Luckily people that disagree with the SAFE Act won't do things like that.


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Oh, kinda like buying fireworks out of state, or buying guns prohibited by the SAFE Act from other states, or buying cigarettes from states with lower tax on them.  Got it.  You would disobey the arbitrary laws democratically legislated in the state you live in, and travel to a state that doesn't have the arbitrary law you don't agree with.  

Luckily people that disagree with the SAFE Act won't do things like that.


It is LEGAL for me to buy fireworks out of state.  But not to bring them back to NY.  
Cicero Fail!

I'm not sure but I think that I can BUY (NY) prohibited guns in other states...again,
I just can't bring them back to NY.
Again FAIL!

If I were a smoker, I can buy cigs in another state, but not bring them back to NY...
A Cissy Triple Fail!!!

The Old White Republican Men don't control NY State (Thank you voters) so I don't need to
leave NY for abortion services.
If I lived in an OLD WHITE REPUBLICAN MAN State, It would be perfectly legal to leave the state
then return to that Backward State after an abortion proseduce.

Care to go for the trifecta FAIL CISSY???


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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It is LEGAL for me to buy fireworks out of state.  But not to bring them back to NY.  
Cicero Fail!

I'm not sure but I think that I can BUY (NY) prohibited guns in other states...again,
I just can't bring them back to NY.
Again FAIL!

If I were a smoker, I can buy cigs in another state, but not bring them back to NY...
A Cissy Triple Fail!!!

The Old White Republican Men don't control NY State (Thank you voters) so I don't need to
leave NY for abortion services.
If I lived in an OLD WHITE REPUBLICAN MAN State, It would be perfectly legal to leave the state
then return to that Backward State after an abortion proseduce.

Care to go for the trifecta FAIL CISSY???


Where did I say bring them back to the state?  

You posted one big fail, because you replyed to something I never posted. Lol

I just like hearing you would disobey your arbitrary state law by leaving the arbitrary state boundaries.  You have a little anarchism in ya yet!  Lol!!!


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The abortion issue is just something that gets trotted out to make people think there are still these things called 'political parties', and that it matters which you vote for.
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The abortion issue is just something that gets trotted out to make people think there are still these things called 'political parties', and that it matters which you vote for.



It's the same wedge issues trotted out, week in-week out, day in-day out.  Race, religion, gender, class warfare...repeat.  If enough people ignore it and just laugh at it...Maybe these politician will just go away.  


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Oh, kinda like buying fireworks out of state, or buying guns prohibited by the SAFE Act from other states, or buying cigarettes from states with lower tax on them.  Got it.  You would disobey the arbitrary laws democratically legislated in the state you live in, and travel to a state that doesn't have the arbitrary law you don't agree with.  
Luckily people that disagree with the SAFE Act won't do things like that.

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Where did I say bring them back to the state?  
You posted one big fail, because you replyed to something I never posted. Lol
I just like hearing you would disobey your arbitrary state law by leaving the arbitrary state boundaries.  You have a little anarchism in ya yet!  Lol!!!


Then your original premise is false.  Abortion is not illegal in NY state or any other state,
and there are no restrictions to leaving NY or any other state to have an abortion.
Some red states make it almost impossible for women, especially poor women to use
abortion services, but to my knowledge, there are no laws preventing anyone from leaving
their state to get an abortion.

Cicero DID achieve a FAIL TRIFECTA!  
"I just like hearing you would disobey your arbitrary state law"
Cissy...
Bubby...
What 'arbitrary state law would I disobey???  You must have forgotten to post it!


It's a regular Cicero FAIL FEST!  





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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Then your original premise is false.  Abortion is not illegal in NY state or any other state,
and there are no restrictions to leaving NY or any other state to have an abortion.
Some red states make it almost impossible for women, especially poor women to use
abortion services, but to my knowledge, there are no laws preventing anyone from leaving
their state to get an abortion.

Cicero DID achieve a FAIL TRIFECTA!  
"I just like hearing you would disobey your arbitrary state law"
Cissy...
Bubby...
What 'arbitrary state law would I disobey???  You must have forgotten to post it!


It's a regular Cicero FAIL FEST!  



Ok, just say that this post was hyperbole and the "war on women" is a bogus democrat narrative...was that so hard?

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A good analogy...
Is anyone being forced to celebrate REPUBLICAN Christmas???
Because there are women being forced top complete REPUBLICAN Pregnancies!




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The abortion issue is just something that gets trotted out to make people think there
are still these things called 'political parties', and that it matters which you vote for.


Really!!!  If you believe in "choice" then there is a definite difference between political parties.

The 2012 Republican Party Platform:
Quoted Text
THE SANCTITY AND DIGNITY OF HUMAN LIFE Faithful to the "self-evident"
truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of
human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life
which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution
and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections
apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform
abortion or fund organizations which perform or advocate it and will not fund or
subsidize health care which includes abortion coverage. We support the appointment
of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human
life.


The 2012 Democrat Party Platform:
Quoted Text
The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and
a woman's right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal
abortion, regardless of ability to pay. We oppose any and all efforts to weaken or
undermine that right. Abortion is an intensely personal decision between a woman,
her family, her doctor, and her clergy; there is no place for politicians or government
to get in the way. We also recognize that health care and education help reduce the
number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions.
We strongly and unequivocally support a woman's decision to have a child by providing
affordable health care and ensuring the availability of and access to programs that help
women during pregnancy and after the birth of a child, including caring adoption
programs.


The 2012 LIBERTARIAN Party Platform
Quoted Text
Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views
on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the
question to each person for their conscientious consideration.


If you vote Republican you are voting anti choice, if you vote Democrat or Libertarian
you are voting pro choice.

No difference between parties???  The difference is 180 degrees opposite of eachother.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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does forced birth ALWAYS result from forced intercourse sex?????????

oh wait a minute.....that means there would have to be forced viagra and forced testing for low T...........


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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It is LEGAL for me to buy fireworks out of state.  But not to bring them back to NY.  
Cicero Fail!

I'm not sure but I think that I can BUY (NY) prohibited guns in other states...again,
I just can't bring them back to NY.
Again FAIL!

If I were a smoker, I can buy cigs in another state, but not bring them back to NY...
A Cissy Triple Fail!!!

The Old White Republican Men don't control NY State (Thank you voters) so I don't need to
leave NY for abortion services.
If I lived in an OLD WHITE REPUBLICAN MAN State, It would be perfectly legal to leave the state
then return to that Backward State after an abortion proseduce.

Care to go for the trifecta FAIL CISSY???


so you're a tightly buttoned up law abiding citizen that moves along in the corral with stockholm syndrome?



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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