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False logic.
All Viet Nam veterans share the collective guilt, just as all Nazis had to.
Declaring now that you didn't really support the killings is like denouncing your military service.
Don't get me wrong, I truly hope that you would.
Just admit you made a mistake and that you have learned from it that killing people is not the solution, and you are forgiven.
It isn't hard at all.
My only mistake is even replying to your ignorant hate filled irrational rants |
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My only mistake is even replying to your ignorant hate filled irrational rants
So your participation in the deaths of a half million civilians was deliberate and with intent? |
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I gave up discussions with the "hippy hero" long ago. I took Mark Twain's advice: |
| The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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Yep, when the going gets tough, the Marines give up.
Just like Viet Nam. |
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Yep, when the going gets tough, the Marines give up.
Just like Viet Nam.
L4Life seems to be interested in proving himself... I've given up on him/her a long time ago, but... OK L4Life. Please tell us. When did the Marines "GIVE UP" in Vietnam? Or are you just so frustrated that you are posting out of your butt again??? |
| The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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joebxr |
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L4Life seems to be interested in proving himself... I've given up on him/her a long time ago, but... OK L4Life. Please tell us. When did the Marines "GIVE UP" in Vietnam?
Or are you just so frustrated that you are posting out of your butt again???
He can't because it's not true and you know that...he's just being his usual ignorant self. FACT: A condition of treaty was that US Marines and Korean Marines were to be pulled out first...FACT! PS - The jacka$$ can't even correctly spell Vietnam.... I hear that lack of proper meds effect spelling. |
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The Decentralization of Thought
Written by Matt Bergman on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 at 8:08 AM EST in Articles
google-voluntaryismFor many years, the common man was educated/conditioned in government schools. He was spoon fed two common points of view differing ever so slightly to the left and right of each other by a handful of State controlled/censored media outlets. A human farm devoid of question for a system whose victims stretch the length of the entire planet.
In 2013, we the people, now more than ever, have the power to evolve past draconian statist semantics. Loaded speeches of patriotism calling for blind obedience and duty lacking foremost in any sort of rational idea. Ideologies that have long since run their crash course through history, time and time again. Social media outlets such as Facebook, Twiitter, blogs, etc… are making the decentralization of thought possible and free thought a reality.
Disbelief in the system is at a rampant all time high and ever expanding. More people everyday are referring to themselves as “independents” rather than associating themselves with either of the two political parties, whose actions almost always seem to fall disappointingly short of their words. Why call on government to fix problems that in most cases government caused in the first place?
Most people understand that monopolies tend to never render the best or even tolerable results. Most Americans feel differently about war, marriage equality, the drug war, the Patriot Act and an audit of the Federal Reserve than those who are in power. There is a definite ever expanding disconnect between the American people and our “elected officials”. Most people are socially liberal and economically conservative. I firmly believe that most people are libertarian and just don’t know it yet.
Conversely, technology is a double edged sword also being used by the State to snoop on the populous on a larger scale then ever before. However, the pros of this technological age definitely outweigh the cons. This is coming from a regular dude who started a Facebook page that has grown up to 40k plus “likes” in under three years. Four years ago, it was just me drunken rambling in a bar to a handful of people. I was spreading dissent none the less, but the point is that technology provides a huge f**king podium for those who are so inclined.
Make no mistake about it, a grass roots, bottom up, idealogical revolution is here and on the rise. Principles of voluntaryism abound, centered behind a belief that any initiation of force is morally wrong whether that force is initiated by a man or a government.
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| ...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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PS - The jacka$$ can't even correctly spell Vietnam.... I hear that lack of proper meds effect spelling.
When all is lost and you have nothing left in your arsenal, except to flame the posters spelling and pronounce him off his meds.
Were the Vietcong bad spellers and off their meds?
I keep forgetting that you and box still won't admit the US(you guys) lost in Viet Nam.
Pathetic.
Denying losing the war and resorting to spelling attacks.
Wow.
Demands for peace ended the war.
The largest, most powerful military ever on the Earth was unable to beat the Vietcong.
Plus the US military was reigned in by public outrage.
Go ahead now, argue your petty semantics.
The entire world knows who lost the war. |
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And this is the best fabrication and ignorance you can come up with?
SAD....must be Hess intentionally punishing you that's driving you crazy!
Careful you don't bust a vein!!! |
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Yep, when the going gets tough, the Marines give up.
Just like Viet Nam.
L4Life must have missed my post. I'll try again: Try #2
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L4Life seems to be interested in proving himself... I've given up on him/her a long time ago, but... OK L4Life. Please tell us. When did the Marines "GIVE UP" in Vietnam?
Or are you just so frustrated that you are posting out of your butt again???
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November 21, 2013, 10:32am |
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And this is the best fabrication and ignorance you can come up with?
SAD....must be Hess intentionally punishing you that's driving you crazy!
Careful you don't bust a vein!!!
"Your Time In Iraq Vietnam Makes You a Threat To Society" with every post you make. |
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L4Life must have missed my post. I'll try again: Try #2 Please tell us. When did the Marines "GIVE UP" in Vietnam?
Direct U.S. military involvement ended on 15 August 1973 as a result of the Case–Church Amendment passed by the U.S. Congress.
If you claim that you never gave up, then you must think that you are still trying to win.
Go ahead now, argue your petty semantics.
The entire world knows who lost the war. |
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Direct U.S. military involvement ended on 15 August 1973 as a result of the Case–Church Amendment passed by the U.S. Congress. If you claim that you never gave up, then you must think that you are still trying to win. Go ahead now, argue your petty semantics. The entire world knows who lost the war.
Yea... The Case-Church Amendment... Passed by Congress... Yes, ending US involvement in the Vietnam war... yea... The MARINES as well as almost all US Forces were ordered out of Vietnam.... So??? The Marines followed orders from their Commander in Chief and left Vietnam, as ORDERED. They didn't get to vote on that decision or take part in it in any way. SO again I ASK YOU TO PLEASE TELL US, AS YOU CLAIMED: WHEN DID THE MARINES "GIVE UP"?
You've described the legislation pulling US troops from Vietnam... LMAO! But not any incident where the "MARINES GAVE UP" as you claimed.
Were you mistaken? Were you on drugs? Were You Just Posting Out Of Your Butt Yet Again???
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Yea... The Case-Church Amendment... Passed by Congress... Yes, ending US involvement in the Vietnam war... yea...
The MARINES as well as almost all US Forces were ordered out of Vietnam....
So??? The Marines followed orders from their Commander in Chief and left Vietnam, as ORDERED. They didn't get to vote on that decision or take part in it in any way.
SO again I ASK YOU TO PLEASE TELL US, AS YOU CLAIMED: WHEN DID THE MARINES "GIVE UP"?
You've described the legislation pulling US troops from Vietnam... LMAO! But not any incident where the "MARINES GAVE UP" as you claimed.
Were you mistaken? Were you on drugs? Were You Just Posting Out Of Your Butt Yet Again???
Are you still fighting?
You are arguing semantics.
You are seeking to redefine losing a war as not giving up.
You lost, you packed up and went home.
That's what sane people call giving up.
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I gave up discussions with the "hippy hero" long ago.
You shouldn't use terms that you don't understand.
If you gave up having discussions with me long ago, what the hell do you call what you've been doing the past 3 days?
You clearly don't know the meaning of gave up.
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