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Box A Rox
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What Will You Find At An OathCreapers Rally???

(Lotsa guns and even more Conspiracy Theories)

Take the OathCreapers Rally at Farragut State Park outside Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, for example.

Yea lots a guns guts and macho crap, but what else?

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There will be seminars on Agenda 21, a United Nations sustainability plan that has no legal
enforcement mechanisms or requirements, but that the radical right is convinced is a secret plot
to impose socialism on the United States.


OK so they have some crazy $hit... and lots a guns... but what else?

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There will be representatives from the John Birch Society — a primary
proponent of the Agenda 21 conspiracy theory, the idea that fluoridation of water
is a Communist plot, and the charge that President Dwight D. Eisenhower was a
Communist agent.

Yea, does sound a little nuts huh?  Ike a communist and fluoride.  So that IS crazy...
And they do have lots of cool guns... but what else.

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There will be a workshop on colloidal silver — a substance that many
on the radical right believe is a cure for all kinds of ailments that the government
has kept secret from the people. In fact, the substance has no known medical
use and, if used with the frequency that some radicals do, turns human skin blue.

Wow!  TURNS YOUR SKIN BLUE?  KILLERS WITH BLUE SKIN!!! Kinda like Mel Gibson in Bravehart!
And did I mention that they do have lots of guns?  

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Also featured will be training sessions on hand-to hand combat, nighttime
military patrols, survival firearms, and preparation of “bug-out bags” — all of these
an obvious reflection of the radical right’s obsessive fear that the government is
about to move against the American people, seizing their guns and ending liberty.

That sounds cool.  Running around at nite in the woods with guns... just like in the movies.
AND THEY GOT GUNS!!!

These kind of end-of-freedom fears are not new. So-called “preparedness expos” were
common during the first wave of the antigovernment “Patriot” movement during the 1990s.
Toward the end of that decade, with many on the far right predicting a “Y2K” crash at
the millennial date change, tens of thousands of those on the right rushed to the expos
to prepare for imminent hard times.
Remember the Y2K Crazies?  It's the same but with a new agenda.  As long as someone
somewhere is 'out to get ya' these groups will always have a gullible following.

Finally...
Remember the video of  Mark Kessler, a self-described Oath Keeper and police chief
in tiny Gilberton, Penn., who's claim to fame is that (after shooting off his finger)
made a video that went viral attacking "LIBERTARDS"?  Yea that crazy.
The town fired his @ss.  

If you liked Mark Kessler, You'll love the OathCreapers!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box A Rox
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LMAO I'm not a member of any group, unlike you who's group actually used the slogan you posted.





Henry is so gullible.  Anyone can make up a poster... they can even put an Eagle Globe and Anchor in
it.  You can find similar posters everywhere online, but they don't come from the US Marine Corps. Sorry
to dissapoint you.


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Look at this a macho skull sporting a military beret with some bad a$$ lighting bolt going through it, and of course the famous quote.





"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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but they don't come from the US Marine Corps.


Really

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"Kill'em all, and let God sort'em out" is adopted by the Marines and the Green Berets. it derives from "Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset", or "Kill them all. God will know His own.". This was a misunderstood reference to 2 Tim. 2:19 which in part reads, "The Lord knoweth them that are his". I think this comes from around 1210AD, when Pope Innocent III unleashed "orders of fire and sword" against heretics throughout Europe. In this process there was a terrible massacre at the city Beziers, where it was thought that over 100,000 people were killed. After that city where taken, they had captured over 450 "heretics", but many of them claimed to be good Catholics. The quote is believed to be first used here, when they killed all the "heretics". It did not matter if they killed good people, because if one led a godly life, God would know of it, and the reward would be eternal paradise anyway.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Look at this a macho skull sporting a military beret with some bad a$$ lighting bolt going through it, and of course the famous quote.





Yea... And... You have a comment???


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Typical Henry poster!  

I found a source for the that quote... Below was posted:


I can't guarantee that these quotations are correct or true,
but I have tried to verify as many of the quotes as possible.
Please contact me if you find any errors in the quotes,
have some additional information about the quotes
or if you know any more quotations that's not listed here.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Typical Henry poster!  

I found a source for the that quote... Below was posted:


I can't guarantee that these quotations are correct or true,
but I have tried to verify as many of the quotes as possible.
Please contact me if you find any errors in the quotes,
have some additional information about the quotes
or if you know any more quotations that's not listed here.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box it is true, that slogan was heavily used for years by those in the military, by the way the website only corrected the history of the quote not the FACT that the military used it. Everyone and their mothers knows what that quote was used for and who it was for, you trying to deny it is laughable.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Quoted from Henry
Box it is true, that slogan was heavily used for years by those in the military, by the way the website only corrected the history of the quote not the FACT that the military used it. Everyone and their mothers knows what that quote was used for and who it was for, you trying to deny it is laughable.


I've heard it in the Marines but never coming from the Marines.  
  I also heard Marines say a lot of things... so does that make their words Official USMC Doctrine?

Most of what came as Official USMC doctrine when I was in Vietnam was just the opposite.
We were often 'refreshed' on the rules of engagement, which was meant to limit civilian casualties.
The message to "let god sort em out" was the opposite of Marines doctrine.

While in combat training there were pop up targets that were either of an VC enemy or a
civilian, usually holding a broom, and if you shot the civilian, you had to repeat the course until
you hit the right target.  Not what you claim... let god sort em out.

Much of what you know about guns or war seems to come from Right Wing Propaganda.  You should
look for a more balanced approach and maybe you'll see it differently.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Quoted from Box A Rox
Typical Henry poster!  

I found a source for the that quote... Below was posted:


I can't guarantee that these quotations are correct or true,
but I have tried to verify as many of the quotes as possible.
Please contact me if you find any errors in the quotes,
have some additional information about the quotes
or if you know any more quotations that's not listed here.



If it isn't a commonly used in the marine corps, there are an awful lot of online companies marketing t shirts with the Marine Corps insignia and bull dog and that phrase on it.  Hmmm...I wonder who they are selling them to.  Probably Oathkeepers, we all know Marines are humble and reluctant to kill.  They would never piss on the bodies of human beings they killed...oh wai...


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I've heard it in the Marines but never coming from the Marines.  
  I also heard Marines say a lot of things... so does that make their words Official USMC Doctrine?

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Look at the pin on the hat, does that look familiar, that is the insignia of the green berets or special forces, do you think they picked that for the hell of it?  Them using this is no different then the poster I put up



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Look at the pin on the hat, does that look familiar, that is the insignia of the green berets or special forces, do you think they picked that for the hell of it?  Them using this is no different then the poster I put up



Your 'pins' are not from the Marines.  I think that they are army.  I served with an army artillery unit
for a month or so... other than that, I know little about them.


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Your 'pins' are not from the Marines.  I think that they are army.  I served with an army artillery unit
for a month or so... other than that, I know little about them.


Will you at least admit that logo was used by the military men, it would be like the soldiers today who put the "Infidel" patches on their gear or even this one which I'm sure won the hearts and minds of the locals



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Will you at least admit that logo was used by the military men, it would be like the soldiers today who put the "Infidel" patches on their gear or even this one which I'm sure won the hearts and minds of the locals



Again Henry... any individual Marine, can put anything on his uniform.  Much of it macho, but
just like some sports teams use macho rhetoric... but the sports teams still play by the rules.

Any unauthorized patch, pin, logo or anything else would be "out of uniform" when I was in the Marines.
The main them of your "let god sort em out" was definitely against Marine policy.  As macho talk
it was just that.  As policy, they preached just the opposite.

It would be frowned upon if said by an enlisted man, but said by an officer, he would face
serious charges.  

Sorry to disappoint you again but I can't change the FACTS because it doesn't fit your agenda.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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This administration has armed the IRS, EPA, and many more previously unarmed departments but Box has said nothing about that fact. The government has bought massive amounts of ammo and weapons and try to say it's only for training. It would appear that the government knows something that we don't, I wonder what it could be?
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