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Ask the board TeaBaggers... See if they disagree.


Who are the board "TeaBaggers".  This should be interesting.lol


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Who are the board "TeaBaggers".  This should be interesting.lol


Cissy would love to be an actual TeaBagger... but he has such trouble with commitment and
authority... he just can't bring himself to pull the lever!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Cissy would love to be an actual TeaBagger... but he has such trouble with commitment and
authority... he just can't bring himself to pull the lever!  


So you can't answer his question? come on throw some names out


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I'm confused here..........am I suppose to be 'compelled' to honor veterans?  

My grandfather was in the battle of the  bulge under patton........he came home with pts....shock treatments......screwed up the rest of his life! He was  but an 20 year old KID, leaving a pregnant wife behind. His experience was so horrific...that he hardly ever mentioned it. I loved him to death.....HONESTLY.....but I didn't honor him..........I felt sorry for him and do up to this day!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Timothy McVeigh, Bradley Manning, and Nadal Hisan were all veterans.  So bow down and honor all those that served.  Don't judge each individual based on merit, you must kneel before them, and honor ALL veterans.  


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So you can't answer his question? come on throw some names out

Cissy just volunteered his name for the list!
#1.
Quoted from CICERO
Timothy McVeigh, Bradley Manning, and Nadal Hisan were all veterans.  So bow down and
honor all those that served.  Don't judge each individual based on merit, you must kneel
before them, and honor ALL veterans.  

#2?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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TeaBaggers Hate Veterans

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For all the bluster from Senator Ted Cruz about the false reasons to fear Obamacare, the irony is
that veterans should fear him and his Tea Party cohorts in the House of Representatives. After all,
they're on a course to block troops and veterans from the health care they're owed.

First, let's examine Obamacare and its effect on veterans. In short, it's a good deal, especially for
families of veterans.

Among veterans, there are three ways they could get health care. First, many retired service members,
and their families, qualify for TRICARE, the military's health care program. It allows them to get care at
any doctor or facility in the TRICARE network. Second, there is care from the Department of Veterans
Affairs, for all veterans for five years after their deployment (any service connected issues are cared
for by the VA past that). Veterans still can get VA care if they make under a certain amount. However,
VA care doesn't extend to a veteran's family. Third, there's the private insurance system.

For those who have TRICARE, or get VA care, they're considered covered under Obamacare's individual
mandate. But, there are over 1 million veterans who have no coverage, and nearly as many veteran
families. Many veterans make too much to qualify for VA care, or TRICARE and VA facilities are just
too far away for that to be a reasonable choice. For their families, they're uninsured for the any of
the many reasons any other American isn't insured -- prohibitive cost being the most likely reason.

It's for them -- the uncovered veterans and their families -- that Obamacare offers a lifeline. For
the first time, possibly in their lives, they'll be able to afford coverage through the eminently affordable
Health Insurance Marketplace, which Obamacare sets up.

For Guard and Reserve, in particular, who don't have service connected issues, Obamacare is huge.
If they haven't deployed, they're not covered by care at the VA, and only sometimes have access
to TRICARE. They mostly depend on employer coverage. For many of them, they'll get it under
Obamacare. And if their employer has an exemption, the Guardsman or Reservist will be able to get
insurance in the marketplace, for them and their family, with subsidies.

And so, Obamacare is, as Joe Biden called it, a "B.F.D." for veterans and their families.

That brings us back to Ted Cruz, and his Tea Party allies in the House. They're now trying to block
veterans and their families from getting affordable health insurance.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/ted-cruz-threatens-troops_b_3990248.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Don't judge each individual based on merit......  

That is the definition of how you think...you lump everyone into a category that fits
what you want them to be. You see someone that wears a uniform and you DO NOT
attempt in the least to evaluate the person...you immediately stereotype them because
they wear/wore a uniform!!!!  Bravo!!!

Having you "honor" a Veteran is not of any value anyway.



JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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TeaBaggers Hate Veterans



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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That is the definition of how you think...you lump everyone into a category that fits
what you want them to be. You see someone that wears a uniform and you DO NOT
attempt in the least to evaluate the person...you immediately stereotype them because
they wear/wore a uniform!!!!  Bravo!!!

Having you "honor" a Veteran is not of any value anyway.



For those who went thru what my grandfather did................I feel VERY VERY sorry for them.....no honor!!! Altho I don't expect that most will understand.

He has since died....but there isn't a day that goes  by that I don't think of him and wonder how his life would have been if he weren't in the war.

My grandfather, after his horrific 2 years....was against the draft and he and my grandmother were both against young men and women being drafted and/or joining. They lived the 'aftermath'....and it wasn't pretty! TRUST ME!!!

My grandparents NEVER attended a 'veterans anything'. Never joined veterans groups. It wasn't a good memory for them. And a generation or two removed...........we all feel the same way..........AGAIN.....WE LIVED IT!!

Watch the movie....BAND OF BROTHERS.....I don't honor them..........I felt sorry and remorse for them!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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TeaBaggers Hate Veterans



Didn't DHS release a report a few years ago that labeled returning vets as potential right wing terrorist(Teabaggers)? Now they hate themselves?  

More desperate propaganda.


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My grandfather was in the battle of the  bulge under patton........he came home with pts....shock treatments......screwed up the rest of his life! He was  but an 20 year old KID, leaving a pregnant wife behind. His experience was so horrific...that he hardly ever mentioned it. I loved him to death.....HONESTLY.....but I didn't honor him..........I felt sorry for him and do up to this day!!!


It's sad that you do not understand what it means to honor someone and only felt sorry for your Grandfather!
He deserved more!!!
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Honor has several synonyms: “esteem, respect, pay homage to, assigning value to.”
The Greek word translated “honor” in our English Bibles, timao, means “to prize, fix a valuation upon;
by implication, to revere” (Strong’s Concordance).
Showing honor, then, means treating another respectfully because we value them highly.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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It's sad that you do not understand what it means to honor someone and only felt sorry for your Grandfather!
He deserved more!!!


He said he loved his Grandfather but felt sorry for him for what he went through during and after the war, nothing wrong with that.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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He said he loved his Grandfather but felt sorry for him for what he went through during and after the war, nothing wrong with that.


loving him and feeling sorry for him is not the same as respecting him...there was no reason not to respect him!
The fact alone that he stood up for his beliefs against military, by itself, was plenty of reason to respect him!


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He said he loved his Grandfather but felt sorry for him for what he went through during and after the war, nothing wrong with that.


Thank you!! My grandfather didn't even 'honor' the vets. He and my grandmother and their families felt sorry for them. Their exact words were.....'there is no honor in war'. They didn't speak much of the war. Hardly at all actually. But if/when they did....it was with sorrow.

Like I said.....my grandfather arrived home to a wife and small baby and suffered from pts and went thru weeks of shock treatments. He was never the same and struggled every day of his life. The entire family did. No honor.....just remorse....for all vets AND their families.

'there is no honor in war'.

Making this political is shameful...........it diminishes the personal heartache.  


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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