Quoted from Box A Rox

Cissy brings up the bee sting deaths... then runs from his own post when hes proved to be wrong.
Figures.  

Ran from nothing.  Just pointing out your fallacious arguments and comparing unrelated statistics.  The statistical chance of dying from a bee sting is greater than a MASS SHOOTING.  Watch out for the African Killer Bee swarms box!

Quoted from CICERO

Ran from nothing.  Just pointing out your fallacious arguments and comparing unrelated statistics.  The statistical chance of dying from a bee sting is greater than a MASS SHOOTING.  Watch out for the African Killer Bee swarms box!

So go ahead Cissy... Put up or shut up.
Lets see your mass shooting and your bee deaths statistics... Or were you just posting through your butt?

Quoted from Box A Rox

So go ahead Cissy... Put up or shut up.
Lets see your mass shooting and your bee deaths statistics... Or were you just posting through your butt?

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While FBI statistics show that levels of violent crime in the United States, including murder, have steadily declined since 1991, acts of murder and non-negligent manslaughter still claim about 15,000 lives a year. More than half of all such violent crimes in a given year are typically committed with guns. Over the past 30 years, public mass shootings have resulted in the murder of 547 people, with 476 other persons injured, according to a March 2013 Congressional Research Service report.(Avg. 18 deaths per year)“[W]hile tragic and shocking,” the report notes, “public mass shootings account for few of the murders or non-negligent homicides related to firearms that occur annually in the United States.” For more on these dynamics, see the May 2013 Pew Research Center report titled “Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware.

http://journalistsresource.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/MassShootings_CongResServ.pdf

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The health effects of stinging or biting insects or scorpions range from mild discomfort or pain to a lethal reaction for those workers allergic to the insect’s venom. Anaphylactic shock is the body’s severe allergic reaction to a bite or sting and requires immediate emergency care. Thousands of people are stung by insects each year, and as many as 90–100 people in the United States die as a result of allergic reactions. This number may be underreported as deaths may be mistakenly diagnosed as heart attacks or sunstrokes or may be attributed to other causes.

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/insects/

Hey box, shouldn't you be screaming that government provide EpiPens for all Americans to prevent the unnecessary death caused by Anaphylactic shock?  The scourge must be prevented.LOL

Quoted from Box A Rox

The same old, same old... fudge the numbers to somehow make gun deaths look minor.

The facts:
One person is killed by a firearm every 17 minutes,

Very nice of you to point that out.

But,

keep in mind that every 22 minutes one veteran commits suicide.

Using a gun over 90% of the time.

That makes over 80% of all gun deaths are from former military personnel.

OMG, what a coincidence!

The DC Naval Yard shooter was also one of the same group.

Every 22 minutes a former military person kills himself.

Some lash out and take out others.

Perhaps it's just me, but I see a direct correlation between teaching people to kill
and then having them continue to kill even after discharge.

The same thing I say after each event.

Stop teaching people that killing is a legitimate problem solving tool,
and they will stop doing it.

I swear the government is retarded.

More active duty deaths in the military are from suicide than from enemies too.

Can the government really not see that building homicidal maniacs can't be unbuilt?

The most dangerous section of society is the former military by a mile.

very true L4L.....

however there are those(names unmentioned) that having trained killers is valid for the survival of our species/civilization etc....

you know...paid to protect them....a systemic disease called------ "they" need to do something

Quoted from Box A Rox

LMAO!  Henry assumes that the guns in my house all belong to me!!!  

Oh so now it matters who owns the guns in the house, I was under the impression any gun in the house makes it more dangerous according to you. Flip flop box.

Quoted from Henry

Oh so now it matters who owns the guns in the house, I was under the impression any gun in the house makes it more dangerous according to you. Flip flop box.

Plus, the presence of guns in a house must be restricted to the weakest link.

If one person is prohibited from having weapons the entire house should be disallowed.

Let's call it the Adam Lanza rule.

Quoted from Box A Rox

Jezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.  There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Who NEEDS assault weapons?
The military?
The police? ...  

Everyone else doesn't need them for anything.

It's called the Bill Of Rights, not the Bill Of Needs.

I could argue that people don't need religion or freedom of the press.

The fact remains that they are rights.

Right now, at this very minute, the government is plotting to have non-corporate
journalists be disallowed the right to freedom of the press.

It comes as no surprise that we see the communist Democrats (and a few "Republicans")
proposing a new bill in the Senate, S.987, euphemistically titled,
"Free Flow of Information Act of 2013." Knowing how duplicitous these people are, a huge
red flag should be waving simply at the nickname of the bill. No, it's not about enabling
or encouraging the free flow of information to the American people. If that were truly what
it was about, then no bill would be proposed.

You can also get a clue about the bill by noting that it was originally created by Democrat Senator Diane Feinstein, and the latest version was sponsored by Democrat Senator Charles Schumer and cosponsored by sixteen other Democrats and four Republicans. The Senate Republicans are Lindsey Graham, Kelly Ayotte, Roy Blunt and Johnny Isakson (not necessarily to be confused with Senator Johnny Iselin, a devilish character in Condon's novel, The Manchurian Candidate).

Although the bill is ostensibly about protecting journalists from having to unduly reveal their confidential sources, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to read between the lines of legalese and see that this bill is just a step toward federal power to stop voices that the ruling communists in Washington want silenced. The bill presumes to define who will be considered a "covered person," in other words, who the federal government will regard as a "legitimate" journalist or news and information gatherer/reporter worthy of legal protection. Basically, you would have to be officially employed as a "journalist" to qualify. Citizen journalists and bloggers would not be covered.

Under some of the exception clauses, you will not be considered a "covered person" if you are "reasonably likely to be" a "specially designated terrorist," "committing or attempting to commit the crime of terrorism," or "aiding, abetting, or conspiring in illegal activity with a person or organization" in the exception clauses. That sounds entirely reasonable, right? After all, who could possibly want "terrorist journalists" being shielded from discovery of their sources? Well, it sounds reasonable until you consider that the current leftist administration under Obama regards American patriots, returning war veterans, TEA Partiers and other liberty lovers as "potential terrorists."

There can be no exception clauses to the Bill Of Rights!

Quoted from CICERO

Over the past 30 years, public mass shootings have resulted in the murder of 547 people, with 476 other persons injured, according to a March 2013 Congressional Research Service report.
(Avg. 18 deaths per year)
http://journalistsresource.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/MassShootings_CongResServ.pdf
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/insects/

Hey box, shouldn't you be screaming that government provide EpiPens for all Americans
to prevent the unnecessary death caused by Anaphylactic shock?  The scourge must
be prevented.LOL

Lets look at Cissy's fudged numbers...
In order for Cicero to make his figures agree with his mouth, he needed to go back in history 30 years!
so lets break down those numbers:
Since 1982, there have been at least 62 mass shootings across the country,
with killings in 30 states
So it looks like Cicero was "historically" correct.  But the actual numbers tell a different story.  Since
typicaly mass shootings sprees are rare, RECENT HISTORY, shows that they are increasing and
what was true in 1982 is out of date today.

Twenty-five of these 30 mass shootings (83%) have occurred since 2006,
and seven of them took place in 2012.

Cissy's "bees are more dangerous than mass shooters" may have been correct in 1982, or even in
1992, but not in the last 10 years and it's a trend that is INCREASING, while Cissy's bee sting deaths
have remained relatively stable.

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BTW:
(With Cicero's criteria, he cold also show that 'Knights in Armor on Horseback' are more dangerous
than 'mass shooters', - He just needed to adjust the dates - but of course that would be as
ridiculous as Cissy's Bee Sting scam!)

Quoted from Box A Rox

Since 1982, there have been at least 62 mass shootings across the country,
with killings in 30 states
So it looks like Cicero was "historically" correct.  But the actual numbers tell a different story.  Since
typicaly mass shootings sprees are rare, RECENT HISTORY, shows that they are increasing and
what was true in 1982 is out of date today.

Twenty-five of these 30 mass shootings (83%) have occurred since 2006,
and seven of them took place in 2012.

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Thank you for showing the direct correlation between newly enacted tougher gun laws and mass shootings.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Thank you for showing the direct correlation between newly enacted tougher gun laws and mass shootings.

Thanks you!  You beat me to it.  There are more gun free zones than ever.  I guess the illogical draw the conclusion that MORE gun free zones will return a different result.  

Quoted from Henry

YUP! A man with obvious mental issues who has had firearms incidents in the past, went and
bought himself a shotgun.

Just think if there were a FEDERAL GUN REGISTRY and a FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK
on every purchase and A FEDERAL LIST OF THOSE WHO'VE USED GUNS IN CRIMES, with
A FEDERAL 2 WEEK WAITING PERIOD ...
This guy would not have been able to purchase his shotgun.