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CICERO
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If any country dropped bombs on a US city it would be an act of war, if any country sent troops here which then they opened fire on US citizens or troops it would be an act of war.


Or if Canada was training, supplying weapons and providing air support for LaRaza to help them recapture the southwest land that was lost over the centuries wouldn't be an act of war.  The US government would sit by without going into Canada to stop it.  


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Everyone is for the war. Just ask Box. He got his email today from the Boss.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Everyone is for the war. Just ask Box. He got his email today from the Boss.


It's like Graham never has anything of substance to post... but he's driven to post anyway!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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It's like Graham never has anything of substance to post... but he's driven to post anyway!  


Yeah, it is kind of like how you only cut and paste, but you post anyway.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Or if Canada was training, supplying weapons and providing air support for LaRaza to help them recapture the southwest land that was lost over the centuries wouldn't be an act of war.  The US government would sit by without going into Canada to stop it.  


At this point in time it is clear box is just doing what Obama wants him to do which is fall in line, if Bush was making the case we would have 10 topics on this with box calling for his head.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Kerry buries Rand Paul
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SEN. PAUL: So what I would ask is how are we to know? How are we to go home
— I haven’t had one person come up to me and say they’re for this war, not one person.
We get calls by the thousands. Nobody’s calling in favor of this war. I didn’t meet one
when I was home all month. I went to 40 cities. I didn’t have one person come up and
say — do they all agree it’s a horrendous thing? Yes, we all agree that chemical attacks are
a horrendous thing. But people are not excited about getting involved, and they also don’t
think it’s going to work. And they’re skeptical of what will occur with this.
But I’d appreciate your response, and try to reassure the rest of us, one, that the vote
is meaningful and valid, that you’d adhere to it, and also that you’re convinced that all of
these different items will be better, not worse, by this attack.

SEC. KERRY: Well, Senator, I’d be very happy to do that. Will Israel be more likely to suffer
an attack, or will they be safer; will they be less safe? I can make it crystal clear to you
that Israel will be less safe unless the United States takes this action. Iran and Hezbollah
are two of the three biggest allies of Assad. And Iran and Hezbollah are the two single
biggest enemies of Israel. So if — if — if Iran and Hezbollah are advantaged by the United
States not curbing Assad’s use of chemical weapons, there is a much greater likelihood
that at some point down the road, Hezbollah, who has been one of the principal reasons
for a change in the situation on the ground, will have access to these weapons of mass
destruction. And Israel will for certain be less secure.

SEN. PAUL: — it would be more likely that Hezbollah will attack, because of this attack,
in response.

SEC. KERRY: And Israel feels quite confident of its ability to deal with Hezbollah if they
were to do so. You will notice that Israel has on several occasions in the last year seen
fit to deal with threats to its security because of what’s in Syria, and not once has Assad
responded to that to date. I think there are a bunch of things we should talk about in
a — in a classified session.
But let me just make it very clear to you that — you know, you ask these questions, will
this or that be more likely to happen or not likely to happen. If the United States of America
doesn’t do this, Senator, is it more or less likely that Assad does it again? You want to
answer that question?

SEN. PAUL: I don’t think it’s known. I don’t think it’s known –

SEC. KERRY: Is it more or less likely that he does it again?

SEN. PAUL: — (inaudible) — the attack. I think it’s unknown whether it’s more or less likely
(whether you have ?) the attack.

SEC. KERRY: It’s unknown? Senator, it’s not unknown. If the United States of America
doesn’t hold him accountable on this, with our allies and friends, it’s a guarantee Assad
will do it again. A guarantee. And I urge you to go to the classified briefing and learn that.
Secondly, let me just point out to you that with respect to this question of Americans
wanting to go to war, you know, you got three people here who’ve been to war. You
got John McCain, who’s been to war. There’s not one of us who doesn’t understand
what going to war means, and we don’t want to go to war. We don’t believe we are
going to war in the classic sense of taking American troops and America to war. The
president is asking for the authority to do a limited action that will degrade the capacity
of a tyrant who has been using chemical weapons to kill his own people.

SEN. PAUL: But I think by doing so, you announce — you announce –

SEC. KERRY: It’s a limited — it’s limited.

SEN. PAUL: By doing so you announce in advance that your goal is not winning.

SEC. KERRY: But that’s not what –

SEN. PAUL: And I think the last 50 years of secretaries of defense would say if your
goal is not to win, then you shouldn’t be involved.

SEC. KERRY: Senator, when people are asked, do you want to go to war with Syria,
of course not. Everybody, a hundred percent of Americans will say no. We say no.
We don’t want to go to war in Syria either. It’s not what we’re here to ask. The
president is not asking you to go to war. He’s not asking you to declare war. He’s not
asking you to send one American troop to war. He’s simply saying we need to take
an action that can degrade the capacity of a man who’s been willing to kill his own
people by breaking a nearly hundred-year- old prohibition, and will we stand up and
be counted to say, we won’t do that. That’s not — I don’t — you know, I just don’t
consider that going to war in the classic sense of coming to Congress and asking for
a declaration of war and training troops and sending people abroad and putting young
Americans in harm’s way. That’s not what the president is asking for here.




Since Rand Paul wanted to live in a world of theoretical things that may never happen,
Sec. of State Kerry went there with him and schooled the Kentucky senator. Sen. Paul
based all of his grandstanding on the completely false idea that President Obama is
declaring war on, or taking America to war with Syria. Sen. Kerry saw through what
Paul was doing and cut him to shreds.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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LMAO where the hell did you come up with that crappy headline, even the left wing media praised Paul for being one of only 2 that asked hard questions, while they called the others questions "SOFTBALLS". Another box copy and paste fail, in this case EPIC FAIL


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No, it is just unconstitutional acts of war without congressional consent.  If it's not war being waged, then it is murder, or in the case of CIA training rebels, it an accomplice to murder.  With air strikes, actual murder.  So I guess without authorization and a declaration of war, it's unilateral murder.


FRIGGIN' AMAZING...YOU NEVER DISAPPOINT WITH YOUR PREDICTABILITY!
CISSY WORLD...it's the only way!!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Paul got his a$$ handed to him!  Again!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Paul got his a$$ handed to him!  Again!


In your head I'm sure it seems like that, every other site this video is on including youtube the comments are mostly all pro-Paul. The best part of this is again how you turned hypocritical when it comes to this, a democrat like yourself is now against democracy, you just loved showing polls which backed your case but now that its on the other foot it is irrelevant. Keep going box, its fun to watch you implode


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Kerry buries Rand Paul
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Since Rand Paul wanted to live in a world of theoretical things that may never happen,
Sec. of State Kerry went there with him and schooled the Kentucky senator. Sen. Paul
based all of his grandstanding on the completely false idea that President Obama is
declaring war on, or taking America to war with Syria. Sen. Kerry saw through what
Paul was doing and cut him to shreds.


LOL! He saw what Paul was doing and cut him to shreds...LOLOLOL

Hey, Secretary of State, good job getting the Brits on board.  Kerry's persuasiveness and ability to make an argument really did a great job getting the British Parliament to vote down a Prime Minister's request for military action for the first time in 150 years.  What a HUGE FAILURE for a Secretary of State so earily in his term.  Sh!t, Bush was able to get a coalition of 49 countries for the Iraq war. Obama has France and Turkey.  Yup, they are winning the argument for war.




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someone/thing is a threat only when enough fear or 'expert' talk is jammed over the tv/radio for the masses to feed on.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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FRIGGIN' AMAZING...YOU NEVER DISAPPOINT WITH YOUR PREDICTABILITY!
CISSY WORLD...it's the only way!!!!!


Joey never disappoints.  Ad hominem attack with ZERO substance to defend his post.  He posts a question with 5 question marks and 4 exclamation points, and I answer the post, and Joey attacks with his predictable "Cissy World" post.  
Whether you agree with my answer or not, you should be embarrassed at the fact that you can't form a coherent argument.


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