The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Funny how Atheist are now turning into the thing they used to bash, they used hate anyone who openly practiced religion but now they're the ones saying look at me look at me I see it as a good thing the young are leaving the church, religion is personal and there is no need to flaunt it or attack others for their beliefs, now if only Atheist can do the same
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Funny how Atheist are now turning into the thing they used to bash, they used hate anyone who openly practiced religion but now they're the ones saying look at me look at me I see it as a good thing the young are leaving the church, religion is personal and there is no need to flaunt it or attack others for their beliefs, now if only Atheist can do the same
I don't think most Atheist "hate anyone who openly practices religion"... I think they were looking for that Libertarian value... freedom to practice their religion (or lack of it) as they wish with out persecution, oppression or Govt interference.
Freedom OF religion is also Freedom FROM Religion Govt sponsored religion is expressly forbidden in the US Constitution.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
freedom to practice their religion (or lack of it) as they wish with out persecution, oppression or Govt interference.
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They always had a right to practice or not, I just never understood the militant Atheist who need to flaunt something they don't believe in. Its like the spoiled kid who gets the expensive birthday present and then goes around bragging about it to others
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
They always had a right to practice or not, I just never understood the militant Atheist who need to flaunt something they don't believe in. Its like the spoiled kid who gets the expensive birthday present and then goes around bragging about it to others
I think they are comparable to the "Christian Militants" who push Christianity on everyone they meet. They are a minority among the group but a very visible and vocal minority. (I've had Christian Jehovah Witnesses at my door lots of times, but never an Atheist Promoter)
The Atheists that I've met don't advertise their views or sell their Atheism to those around them.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Govt sponsored religion is expressly forbidden in the US Constitution.
No it isn't. The establishment of a state religion is. Man box, where do you come up with this? Voting your religious values is much different than legislating the worship of one national religion over another religion.
As far as I know, government school is the only place your 1st amendment right to practice religion is forbidden.(go figure)
No it isn't. The establishment of a state religion is. Man box, where do you come up with this? Voting your religious values is much different than legislating the worship of one national religion over another religion.
As far as I know, government school is the only place your 1st amendment right to practice religion is forbidden.(go figure)
OK, let me put it in a way that maybe you can understand:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
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Govt sponsored religion is expressly forbidden in the US Constitution.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
OK, let me put it in a way that maybe you can understand:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
or
Govt sponsored religion is expressly forbidden in the US Constitution.
Apparently the founders had a better grasp on the English language than you. Establish means to institute, sponsor means to represent. The goveremt can't institute one religion and force the practice of it. The lefties in the Democrat Party sponsor Environtology all the time, and continually press to institutionalize it.
Establish means to institute, sponsor means to represent. The government can't institute one religion and force the practice of it. (You mean like a "CHRISTIAN NATION"?)
YUP!
As I posted: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
or
Govt sponsored religion is expressly forbidden in the US Constitution.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Where's the legislation that states "Christian Nation"? Who has been fined or jailed for not practicing it?
The GOP has repeatedly proclaimed the USA to be a CHRISTIAN NATION and even proposed legislation to that effect:
H.Res. 397: The bill’s long list of “whereas” affirmations begins with the statement,
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“Whereas the Supreme Court of the United States affirmed this self-evident fact in a unanimous ruling declaring ‘This is a religious people. … From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation.’”
Among the many historical proofs included in the bill were the following:
Whereas in 1777, Congress, facing a national shortage of ‘”Bibles for our schools, and families, and for the public worship of God in our churches,” announced that they “desired to have a Bible printed under their care and by their encouragement” and therefore ordered 20,000 copies of the Bible to be imported; Whereas in 1782, Congress pursued a plan to print a Bible that would be “a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools’ and therefore approved the production of the first English language Bible printed in America that contained the congressional endorsement that ‘the United States in Congress assembled … recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States”; Whereas the 1783 Treaty of Paris that officially ended the Revolution and established America as an independent [nation] begins with the appellation “In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity”; Whereas in 1795, during construction of the Capitol, a practice was instituted whereby “public worship is now regularly administered at the Capitol, every Sunday morning, at 11 o’clock”; Whereas in 1789, Congress, in the midst of framing the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment, passed the first federal law touching education, declaring, “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged”; Whereas by 1867, the church at the Capitol was the largest church in Washington, D.C., with up to 2,000 people a week attending Sunday service in the Hall of the House; Whereas in 1853, the United States Senate declared that the Founding Fathers “had no fear or jealousy of religion itself, nor did they wish to see us an irreligious people. … They did not intend to spread over all the public authorities and the whole public action of the nation the dead and revolting spectacle of atheistical apathy”; Whereas in 1854, the United States House of Representatives declared “It [religion] must be considered as the foundation on which the whole structure rests. … Christianity, in its general principles, is the great conservative element on which we must rely for the purity and permanence of free institutions”; Whereas President John Adams, one of only 2 signers of the Bill of Rights and First Amendment, declared “As the safety and prosperity of nations ultimately and essentially depend on the protection and the blessing of Almighty God, and the national acknowledgment of this truth is not only an indispensable duty which the people owe to Him”; Whereas President Andrew Jackson declared that the Bible “is the rock on which our Republic rests”; Whereas President Franklin D. Roosevelt not only led the Nation in a six-minute prayer during D-Day on June 6, 1944, but he also declared, “If we will not prepare to give all that we have and all that we are to preserve Christian civilization in our land, we shall go to destruction”; Whereas President Dwight D. Eisenhower declared, “Without God there could be no American form of government, nor an American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first, the most basic, expression of Americanism. Thus, the Founding Fathers of America saw it, and thus with God’s help, it will continue to be,” in a declaration later repeated with approval by President Gerald Ford; Whereas the United States Supreme Court has declared throughout the course of our Nation’s history that the United States is “a Christian country,” “a Christian nation,” “a Christian people,” “a religious people whose institutions presuppose a Supreme Being,” and that “we cannot read into the Bill of Rights a philosophy of hostility to religion”
This is just one of many attempts by the Righties to force their "CHRISTIAN NATION" on US Citizens.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box, proclamation isn't establishment. Try again... I guess the millennials are as ignorant as you. I was hoping this generation was a little more enlightened and understand the meaning of words.
TRY AGAIN! I've made my point... you can continue to argue the issue if you choose. Millennials ARE leaving the Church. A sizeable number are Atheists.
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The number of Americans who do not identify with any religion continues to grow at a rapid pace. One-fifth of the U.S. public – and a third of adults under 30 – are religiously unaffiliated today, the highest percentages ever in Pew Research Center polling. In the last five years alone, the unaffiliated have increased from just over 15% to just under 20% of all U.S. adults. Their ranks now include more than 13 million self -described atheists and agnostics (nearly 6% of the U.S. public), as well as nearly 33 million people who say they have no particular religious affiliation (14%).
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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I see it as a good thing the young are leaving the church, religion is personal and there is no need to flaunt it or attack others for their beliefs, now if only Atheist can do the same 
