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GOP Anti Science:
There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain
of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political
and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance
is just as good as your knowledge.”

Issac Asimov



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The Scientific Method Made Easy
(So easy even a Caveman - or Cicero - can understand it)



For the unenlightened, there is an explanation of "THEORY" at 5:00 of the video.


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Box, the definition of theory is self explainatory.  But, you can keep on reassuring yourself that it means fact.


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Box still does NOT understand the scientific method and the difference between Theory and Fact.  And the fact that by calling something a theory, one is not saying that one disputes or believes it could not be a truthful answer to some scientific question.

The fact of the matter is that science is all about questions.  Theories are attempts to answer the question, and even if a lot of evidence suggests a particular theory may be accurate, REAL science always keeps an open mind that the question is never completely answered or that what we believe are answers may not be the WHOLE answer.


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At least they are honest and don't claim they know the origin of electricity.  They didnt even offer a plausable argument to convince the reader they absolutely know.


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This post applies to both this thread and to the Climate Change thread:

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Acceptance of evolution is not the same as a religious belief. Scientists’
confidence about the occurrence of evolution is based on an overwhelming amount
of supporting evidence gathered from many aspects of the natural world. To be
accepted, scientific knowledge has to withstand the scrutiny of testing, retesting,
and experimentation. Evolution is accepted within the scientific community because
the concept has withstood extensive testing by many thousands of scientists
for more than a century. As a 2006 “Statement on the Teaching of Evolution”
from the Interacademy Panel on International Issues, a global network of national
science academies, said, “Evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution
of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations
and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific
disciplines”.

Many religious beliefs do not rely on evidence gathered from the natural world.
On the contrary, an important component of religious belief is faith, which implies
acceptance of a truth regardless of the presence of empirical evidence for or
against that truth. Scientists cannot accept scientific conclusions on faith alone
because all such conclusions must be subject to testing against observations.
Thus, scientists do not “believe” in evolution in the same way that someone
believes in God.



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How long did man believe the earth was flat?  How long did they believe the sun revolved around the earth?  What will science say about evolution and climate change 1000 years from now?  Will today's scientists become tomorrows flat earthers?  It's amazing that such a progressive like box would speak in such absolutes.  He sounds very...conservative...clinging to his belief in scientific absolutes.


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Many scientist started in order to see how God worked, they started from a theory and went on from there, the same is being done by those starting out at the big bang theory. This article is pretty much stating all scientist must believe in evolution or shouldn't be taken seriously, that is why I don't take this article seriously.


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Many scientist started in order to see how God worked, they started from a theory and went on from there, the same is being done by those starting out at the big bang theory. This article is pretty much stating all scientist must believe in evolution or shouldn't be taken seriously, that is why I don't take this article seriously.


The church took 300 years to finally agree that Galileo was right on his science.   Most scientists of his
day agreed with Galileo, but the govt of it's time (much like the Right today) denied the science.

The flat earthers were always a minority of scientists.  Go to the ocean... watch a ship return to
shore.  You will see the top of the mast first then the rest will come into view from TOP TO BOTTOM.
CAUSE THE EARTH IS ROUND!  Un... even in primitive times, it isn't 'rocket science'.

The ignorant believed in sea monsters, whales swallowing people then puking them up (still alive)
and the flat earth.
Science knew better but kept their mouth shut or face the inquisition.

The 'inquisition is going on today with the Creationists vs Evolution.
  The Right will continue to oppress science and promote religion.    


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The 'inquisition is going on today with the Creationists vs Evolution.
  The Right will continue to oppress science and promote religion.    


Yeah its really oppressed, last I looked we have a mind of our own and can decide for our self what we believe or not believe, evolutionist and global warming theorist has yet to convince me, its not my fault if their research is lacking answers. Then add to the fact that they messed with their numbers on purpose really doesn't give me much trust in them, if they had to fix their info to make it match their theories maybe that should be a clue to look elsewhere.


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Yeah its really oppressed, last I looked we have a mind of our own and can decide for our self what we believe or not believe, evolutionist and global warming theorist has yet to convince me, its not my fault if their research is lacking answers. Then add to the fact that they messed with their numbers on purpose really doesn't give me much trust in them, if they had to fix their info to make it match their theories maybe that should be a clue to look elsewhere.

The pope of the catholic church said that Galileo was "messin with the numbers"... turns out the Pope
actually IS NOT infallible and Galileo had it right.
It only took the church 300 years to admit their error... it will take Cicero longer.  


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Quoted from Box A Rox

The pope of the catholic church said that Galileo was "messin with the numbers"... turns out the Pope
actually IS NOT infallible and Galileo had it right.
It only took the church 300 years to admit their error... it will take Cicero longer.  


You are not only a religious bigot but an ignorant, damn fool.  No pope ever invoked papal infallibility to make the scientific claim that the earth was the center of the universe.  


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Galileo Was Right
November 01, 1992

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Moving formally to rectify a wrong, Pope John Paul II
acknowledged in a speech today that the Roman Catholic Church had
erred in condemning Galileo 359 years ago for asserting that the Earth
revolves around the Sun.

The address by the Pope before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences
closed a 13-year investigation into the Church's condemnation of Galileo
in 1633, one of history's most notorious conflicts between faith and
science. Galileo was forced to recant his scientific findings to avoid
being burned at the stake
and spent the remaining eight years of his
life under house arrest.




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