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WOW!  I didn't think that Henry's view was that advanced!


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Funny, but not too far off from some of the things we were taught, sadly. Where are the fossils from these fish that decided to walk and breathe air, BTW?


You mean like the bones of a retard frog squirrel, well they haven't been found yet but they did exist according to some


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OMG HENRY.....I LOVE IT!!! And of course we all know that it is FACT!!!
.....and of course it is a satire showing how ridiculous these so called scientific authorities are!!!






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Funny, but not too far off from some of the things we were taught, sadly. Where are the fossils from these fish that decided to walk and breathe air, BTW?


Yes where are the TRANSITIONAL FOSSIL forms ? This is the main problem with the evolution theory. the absence of something called transitional forms. .  Funny they just cant seem to find any of those fossils.


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Shouldn't we all demand that RELIGION not be taught in public schools?  Shouldn't we all demand
that SCIENCE be taught in SCIENCE class?

A private school can teach religion but teaching RELIGION as if it were SCIENCE is ridiculous.

If you want to learn about RELIGION, the bible is one source.
If you want to learn about MATH, look in a MATH book... not the bible.
If you want to learn about SCIENCE, look in a SCIENCE book... not the bible.


And if you want to teach the left-wing nut punk a lesson, there is always after school behind the gymnasium.

But seriously, the fact is that the left-wing nuts have been teaching THEIR religion in public schools for at least 40 years.

Oh -- and for the record Evolution is a THEORY .. just as Creationism is a THEORY.   Both theories should be taught side by side.



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TRANSITIONAL FOSSIL forms:

Nautiloids to ammonoids
>500 Ma     
Nautiloidea
Silurian Orthoceras Fossil
390 Ma     

Bactritida
Member of the Nautiloids.
Direct ancestor of the ammonoids.
370 Ma     

Ammonoidea
Direct descendants of Bactirida.  

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Cephalopods
296 Ma     

Pohlsepia
The earliest described octopod.     
164 Ma     

Proteroctopus
A primitive octopod.     
165–164 Ma     

Vampyronassa
An early Vampyromorphida.     
89 - 71 Ma     

Palaeoctopus
A primitive octopod.

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Evolution of insects
400 Ma     
Rhyniognatha
The world’s oldest known insect.

400 Ma     
Rhyniella
Early springtail.

300 Ma     
Archimylacris
Ancestral to cockroaches, mantids and termites.

316.5 Ma     
Aphthoroblattina
A primitive cockroach.

140 Ma     
Archaeolepis
The earliest known Lepidopteran.

92 Ma     
Melittosphex
The oldest known species of bee.

80 Ma     
Sphecomyrma
The earliest known species of ant.

56 - 34 Ma     
Eophyllium
First leaf insect from the fossil record.
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Invertebrates to fish
523 Ma     
Pikaia
Lancelet-like in appearance. Oldest known ancestor of modern vertebrates
Vertebrate characters

504 Ma     
Conodont
Had fin rays, chevron-shaped muscles and a notochord.               
530 Ma     

Haikouichthys
Appears to have a cranium, thus being a craniat.     
480 to 470 Ma     

Arandaspis
Jawless fish     A well armoured jawless fish, resembling a large tadpole in life     
422-412 Ma     
Birkenia
An anaspid, ancestral to the jawed vertebrates,     An unarmored, scaly jawless fish     
419 Ma     
Guiyu
Oldest known bony fish
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It continues to to man.
     


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Oh -- and for the record Evolution is a THEORY .. just as Creationism is a THEORY.   Both theories should be taught side by side.


I guess we do have living proof of the missing link:

I present DVOR, who fits in somewhere between Pierolapithecus  and Australopithecus!  

Seriously.  I'm always surprised when I hear what appear to be normal functioning people proclaim the
"Creationism and Evolution are both just THEORIES" view.


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I guess we do have living proof of the missing link:

I present DVOR, who fits in somewhere between Pierolapithecus  and Australopithecus!  

Seriously.  I'm always surprised when I hear what appear to be normal functioning people proclaim the
"Creationism and Evolution are both just THEORIES" view.


Then you don't understand how science works.  You start with theories and have to prove them.  And as matters of science go BOTH Creationism and Evolution are THEORIES.

Besides, the best learning occurs when students are presented both sides or all sides of an issue .. not just one P.C. side of an issue.  Of course, the left-wing nut Obama-Pelosi-Tonko types don't want real learning nor do they want ALL sides of an issue to be presented and discussed.  That is why the United States is slipping farther and farther behind in educational outcomes.

(I bet BoxofCrap got beat up a lot after school.)


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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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You mean like the bones of a retard frog squirrel, well they haven't been found yet but they did exist according to some


There is a theory that BoxofCrap descended from that frog-squirrel.


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There is a theory that BoxofCrap descended from that frog-squirrel.




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TRANSITIONAL FOSSIL forms:

Nautiloids to ammonoids
>500 Ma     
Nautiloidea
Silurian Orthoceras Fossil
390 Ma     

Bactritida
Member of the Nautiloids.
Direct ancestor of the ammonoids.
370 Ma     

Ammonoidea
Direct descendants of Bactirida.  

--------------------------------------
Cephalopods
296 Ma     

Pohlsepia
The earliest described octopod.     
164 Ma     

Proteroctopus
A primitive octopod.     
165–164 Ma     

Vampyronassa
An early Vampyromorphida.     
89 - 71 Ma     

Palaeoctopus
A primitive octopod.

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Evolution of insects
400 Ma     
Rhyniognatha
The world’s oldest known insect.

400 Ma     
Rhyniella
Early springtail.

300 Ma     
Archimylacris
Ancestral to cockroaches, mantids and termites.

316.5 Ma     
Aphthoroblattina
A primitive cockroach.

140 Ma     
Archaeolepis
The earliest known Lepidopteran.

92 Ma     
Melittosphex
The oldest known species of bee.

80 Ma     
Sphecomyrma
The earliest known species of ant.

56 - 34 Ma     
Eophyllium
First leaf insect from the fossil record.
--------------------------------------------

Invertebrates to fish
523 Ma     
Pikaia
Lancelet-like in appearance. Oldest known ancestor of modern vertebrates
Vertebrate characters

504 Ma     
Conodont
Had fin rays, chevron-shaped muscles and a notochord.               
530 Ma     

Haikouichthys
Appears to have a cranium, thus being a craniat.     
480 to 470 Ma     

Arandaspis
Jawless fish     A well armoured jawless fish, resembling a large tadpole in life     
422-412 Ma     
Birkenia
An anaspid, ancestral to the jawed vertebrates,     An unarmored, scaly jawless fish     
419 Ma     
Guiyu
Oldest known bony fish
--------------------------------

It continues to to man.
     

Any Pics ? I dont think there are any. I think there are plenty of artist renderings  of a tadpole growing legs though.- but not really any actual transitional fossils that show the tadpole growing legs or wings.


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Any Pics ? I dont think there are any. I think there are plenty of artist renderings  of a tadpole growing legs though.- but not really any actual transitional fossils that show the tadpole growing legs or wings.


164 Ma     
Proteroctopus
A primitive octopod.


165–164 Ma     
Vampyronassa
An early Vampyromorphida.


89 - 71 Ma     
Palaeoctopus
A primitive octopod.


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Any Pics ? I dont think there are any. I think there are plenty of artist renderings  of a tadpole growing legs though.- but not really any actual transitional fossils that show the tadpole growing legs or wings.


Fish to tetrapods

416-359 Ma     
Osteolepis
An early member of the Tetrapodomorpha, the piscine line leading to tetrapods,
Osteolepis is generalised enough to give a fair approximation of the common
ancestor of tetrapods and lungfish.


385 Ma     
Eusthenopteron  
Belonging to the family Tristichopteridae, a family that form a sister group to Panderichthys
and the tetrapods. Though not on the evolutionary path to tetrapods, Eusthenopteron is of
fairly general build and is very well known, serving as an iconic model organism in tetrapod
evolution.


375 Ma     
Tiktaalik
A "fishapod" more tetrapod-like than Panderichthys.     A fish, transitional between
fish and the early, fish-like labyrinthodonts.


365 Ma     
Acanthostega
Together with Ichthyostega the sole early labyrinthodont known from fairly complete
skeletons. It is the oldest animal known to have feet rather than fins, thus making it
a true tetrapod and the oldest known unquestionable ichthyostegalian.


365 Ma     
Ichthyostega
Fairly closely related to Acanthostega. It possibly represent an early (and ultimately
unsuccessful) line adapted to moving on land by inchworm-like movements.     Together
with Acanthostega the sole early labyrinthodont known from fairly complete skeletons.




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Evolution is an undisputed fact within the scientific community and in
academia, where the level of support for evolution is essentially universal. The
support for Abrahamic accounts or other creationist alternatives is very low
among scientists, and virtually nonexistent among scientists in the relevant
fields.


Theory vs fact
Evolution as theory and fact

The argument that evolution is a theory, not a fact, has often been made against the
exclusive teaching of evolution.  The argument is related to a common misconception
about the technical meaning of "theory" that is used by scientists. In common usage,
"theory" often refers to conjectures, hypotheses, and unproven assumptions.
In science, "theory" usually means "a plausible or scientifically acceptable general
principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena".


Evolution is a theory. It is also a fact.
And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing
certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain
and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to
explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's, but apples did not
suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from
ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some
other yet to be discovered.


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