Note... ONCE BORN! Until then, what may or may not end up being the King of England is only a tiny blob of cells.
This is Cicero's price chicken. The "chicken's" name is Humpty Dumpty!
The entitlement exists in the womb. The only thing denying it is death. You are right, may or may not become king. But the right exists when fertilized. I may or may not make it to collect my social security, but the government says I'm entitled. In either case, purposely killing to deny collecting would be murder.
Sorry Cicero. I made a mistake. It's easy to do but the plumber... He's really a goat. Zygotes kind of all look a like at this stage. Human, Goat, Pig, Chimp??? Hard to tell.
Box, I can understand your mistake. Based on your body of work, it would be understandable. Luckily there are smart people in biology that can identify a human embryo. You're from Gloversville, I can understand how pregnant women in your neck of the woods may need a paternity test to make sure it's not a goat or pig. You must have been nervous in the delivery room.
The entitlement exists in the womb. The only thing denying it is death. You are right, may or may not become king. But the right exists when fertilized. I may or may not make it to collect my social security, but the government says I'm entitled. In either case, purposely killing to deny collecting would be murder.
I can't wait for Cicero to have a cop read a zygote his rights! "Book Em Danno""Um... where to I put the cuffs? Is that a writs? NO stupid, it's a... it's a... Yea, maybe that part of the blob is a wrist!"
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I can't wait for Cicero to have a cop read a zygote his rights! "Book Em Danno""Um... where to I put the cuffs? Is that a writs? NO stupid, it's a... it's a... Yea, maybe that part of the blob is a wrist!"
Box, I can understand your mistake. Based on your body of work, it would be understandable. Luckily there are smart people in biology that can identify a human embryo. You're from Gloversville, I can understand how pregnant women in your neck of the woods may need a paternity test to make sure it's not a goat or pig. You must have been nervous in the delivery room.
OK......I JUST SPIT MY ADULT DRINK OUT ON MY COMPUTER!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I did. The unborn fetus is legally entitled to survivor benefits. How can a clump of cells receive be recognized an a legal person? If the father dies and has no children, why on gods green earth would a child born after death be recognized as his child? And if it has the legal rights to survivor benefits while in the womb, how can it be legal to purposely kill it to prevent its legal right to collect it?
that's why.....the system is set right from the get go to make everyone their 'brother's keeper' and a criminal...
no matter what the government props up...SS, welfare etc it immediately starts to make regulation, regulation, regulation there by making all, either a donkey or a criminal.....
Box says only he can validate a personhood and what they are deserving of under his umbrella of 'caring',,,,it's his 'church' or no church.
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
You are the one who said they are PEOPLE. If they have the rights of other Americans as you say they do... then they have the responsibilities of other Americans. No travel for a fetus because Cicero says they need a passport to leave and return to the USA... Just like PEOPLE do.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You are the one who said they are PEOPLE. If they have the rights of other Americans as you say they do... then they have the responsibilities of other Americans. No travel for a fetus because Cicero says they need a passport to leave and return to the USA... Just like PEOPLE do.
Well, it's OBLIGATIONS of other American, not responsibilities.
Hey, you agreed that a fetus is entitled to survivor benefits once born. A survivor benefit should only be for those children already born, since they are what you consider children. You explain the inconsistencies of how a clump of cells is entitled to these benefits without first existing outside the womb.
Well, it's OBLIGATIONS of other American, not responsibilities.
Hey, you agreed that a fetus is entitled to survivor benefits once born. A survivor benefit should only be for those children already born, since they are what you consider children. You explain the inconsistencies of how a clump of cells is entitled to these benefits without first existing outside the womb.
"You explain the inconsistencies of how a clump of cells is entitled to these benefits without first existing outside the womb." Me explain??? It's your contention not mine. IMO, They aren't entitled to anything until they are born. They may have "FUTURE RIGHTS" just as in a will, you can leave your inheritance to your children and ALL OTHER FUTURE CHILDREN FROM YOUR MARRIAGE. They don't exist YET as a person (just like a fetus) but they may some day.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"You explain the inconsistencies of how a clump of cells is entitled to these benefits without first existing outside the womb." Me explain??? It's your contention not mine. IMO, They aren't entitled to anything until they are born. They may have "FUTURE RIGHTS" just as in a will, you can leave your inheritance to your children and ALL OTHER FUTURE CHILDREN FROM YOUR MARRIAGE. They don't exist YET as a person (just like a fetus) but they may some day.
cut off in 4 months gestation and cut off in 4 months of 90th birthday
choice?
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
"You explain the inconsistencies of how a clump of cells is entitled to these benefits without first existing outside the womb." Me explain??? It's your contention not mine. IMO, They aren't entitled to anything until they are born. They may have "FUTURE RIGHTS" just as in a will, you can leave your inheritance to your children and ALL OTHER FUTURE CHILDREN FROM YOUR MARRIAGE. They don't exist YET as a person (just like a fetus) but they may some day.
and there MAY be a drunk driver/non registered car on the road so there must be check points...there MAY be terrorists so stop and frisk.....
making a future human or making a future criminal......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Logged
He's really a goat. 
