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I blame the criminal for the crime.  My post was about the "IRONY" that seems to escape you.
I stand by my original post!


There is no irony box because you don't know why this man bought this firearm, you made a assumption based on your beliefs. 2nd you laughed at the man for being robbed by calling him easy pickings, so would you blame your daughter for being robbed for carrying her purse? Would you laugh at her and call her easy pickings?


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Actually this is not the 1st time you posted this story box, go look through your anti-gun thread
where I gave you all the answers to your questions


I was responding to your post:
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Wrong, anti-gun groups made these guns not wanted by the citizens, you see there is laws in
place
which would make EVERY gun sale mandatory with this technology once the 1st one is
sold. Sad part is there would have been a market for it but the nut cases like you created crap which
kept it off the market.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Thinking It Through
http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/foss/2014/oct/15/wrong-troopers-withhold-weapons-numbers/
A Daily Gazette life blog
Her column and blog rolled into one

Wrong for troopers to withhold weapons numbers
By Sara Foss
Wednesday, October 15, 2014


Not too long ago, a reader called to suggest I look into how many assault weapons have been registered under the NY SAFE Act.

The topic interested me, I jotted a note to myself and I now have the answer — or at least a partial answer — to the question.

Turns out we might never know how many assault weapons have been registered under the controversial gun control law passed in 2013. Ever since the law was passed, state police have refused to release the information, saying the law does not allow the information contained in its gun database to be released publicly.

Which poses something of a conundrum for those of us who are curious about the SAFE Act: How can we possibly assess the impact of the law if such basic data is kept secret?

Not everyone is buying the state police’s claim that the information is confidential. Earlier this month. the state Committee on Open Government issued an advisory opinion saying state police should release the number of assault weapons registered under the SAFE Act.

This opinion states that while the law makes application records maintained by the state police confidential, “there is no indication that aggregate data or that which can be derived from the records is protected. … Accordingly, it is our opinion that such non-identifying data is required to be disclosed upon request.”

In other words, the SAFE Act forbids the release of identifying information, such as the names and addresses of applicants for firearm permits, but it doesn’t bar the release of statistics related to compliance with the law.

This makes sense. There’s a big difference between publishing the names of individual gun owners and providing a number that can tell us how many guns have been registered under the law. If the state’s reluctance to release the registration numbers seems strange and even a little bit fishy, it’s because state agencies release aggregate data all the time.

The state’s Domestic Violence Dashboard Project provides statistics on domestic violence without listing the names and addresses of victims. The Division of Criminal Justice Services reports arrest data by county without including personal information about suspects. The Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance releases regular updates on the number of New Yorkers receiving benefits such as food stamps without disclosing the identities of the recipients. Would it really be so difficult to release numbers related to assault weapon registration?

I’m not opposed to all gun control measures — universal background checks, for example, have always struck me as a good idea — but I suspect that many gun control laws are passed hastily, as the SAFE Act was, with little research into how to effectively reduce gun violence.

Calls to ban or heavily restrict the sale and ownership of assault weapons tend to be popular, but there isn’t a whole lot of evidence that doing so would lead to a big drop in gun deaths.

A recent report by the investigative news website ProPublica found the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 made little difference in reducing gun violence, mainly because “big, scary military rifles don’t kill the vast majority of the 11,000 Americans murdered with guns each year. Little handguns do.”

The article goes on to say: “More than 20 years of research funded by the Justice Department has found that programs to target high-risk people or places, rather than targeting certain kinds of guns, can reduce gun violence.”


If the ProPublica report is to be believed, the SAFE Act’s focus on assault weapons will do little to reduce crime or make the state safer, and the provisions of the law that target assault weapons are largely symbolic.

Which brings us back to the lack of information regarding how many people are registering their assault weapons with the state. Gun rights supporters believe most gun owners are refusing to comply with a law they regard as unjust and accuse the state of withholding the assault weapon registration data out of embarrassment.

Should the state release the data, the public would learn just how toothless this provision of the law is, they say. This might be true, or it might not.

But the only way to know for sure is by looking at the data, and the state won’t provide it.
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It's amazing how GunHuggers live in so much FEAR, that their lives revolve around owning
“big, scary military assault rifles".

Republicans do have a brain defect that centers around the "FEAR FACTOR" part of their brain.  I
guess it figures they will only feel SAFE when hiding behind an arsenal of military weapons.
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Political brains

Comparing the Democrat and Republican participants turned up differences in two brain regions:
the right amygdala and the left posterior insula. Republicans showed more activity than Democrats
in the right amygdala when making a risky decision. This brain region is important for processing
fear, risk and reward.

Meanwhile, Democrats showed more activity in the left posterior insula, a portion of the brain
responsible for processing emotions, particularly visceral emotional cues from the body. The particular
region of the insula that showed the heightened activity has also been linked with "theory of mind,"
or the ability to understand what others might be thinking.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....study_n_2717731.html



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I guess it figures they will only feel SAFE when hiding behind an arsenal of military weapons.



I guess you can only feel safe hiding behind the government's largest arsenal of military weapons in the world.
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Republicans do have a brain defect that centers around the "FEAR FACTOR" part of their brain.  I
guess it figures they will only feel SAFE when hiding behind an arsenal of military weapons.


I don't believe for most it is about "hiding behind an arsenal", but more the idea of waiting 10 minutes for the government to show up and defend us from the crazy of the world that doesn't sit well. Yes there are some individuals out there who live with a gun in every corner and are prepping for some unforeseen apocalypse, but I don't believe the definition of that person is a Republican.
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Maybe box can explain to us why we should rely on others with guns to protect us, especially when that help is usually 15 minutes away or longer. Sure he can tell us about all that training they receive but in reality it doesn't count for nothing when it isn't there to do us any good. Reality is the cops will get there to do paperwork, do you want them to write your name down as deceased or the bad guys name, it really is as simple as that.


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“How does it feel to get robbed with your own gun?”

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A Washington man was innocently (and illegally) selling his trusty sidearm to a convicted
felon when, surprisingly, said felon used it to rob him. The felon in question was a friend
of a Facebook acquaintance of the “victim,” according to the Mukilteo Police Department.

The unnamed seller took a ferry to Mukilteo with his 21-year-old internet friend to meet with
the buyer, a 23-year-old Everett resident, and where better to meet than a parking lot
near the ferry to take care of the transaction? The buyer was (once again) a felon, a
point that cannot be emphasized enough, according to police.

The three men went to the buyer’s apartment so the seller could teach him to clean and
reassemble the firearm. En route to the apartment, the buyer put a live round in the gun
and pointed it at his incredibly stupid victim’s head.

Police say he asked the former owner of the Sig Sauer 1911 pistol:
“How does it feel to get robbed with your own gun?”


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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“How does it feel to get robbed with your own gun?”



that's like getting divorced and remarrying your ex....who cares?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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"A Washington man was innocently (and illegally) selling his trusty sidearm to a convicted
felon when, surprisingly, said felon used it to rob him."


This is about Washington state, what does this have to do with NY and our laws. It is illegal in NYS to transfer a handgun without involving a FFL dealer, and to complete the transfer you need to contact the county of record and request an amendment to your permit. If this idiot decided to transfer his weapon to an unknown person in this fashion then I agree with the officer who asked "how does it feel....".

The patchwork of laws across the country need to be streamlined, and as a Republican and a gun owner have no problem with background checks and proper transfers being done through reputable dealers. Just don't tell me what I can and cannot have because it scares you. My firearms, knifes, framing hammers, or kitchen rolling pins have never killed anyone.

The vast majority of "gunhuggers" are the most respectful and peaceful people I know. It’s the “let’s make more laws to restrict people” groups that want to impose conflict and friction into every aspect of our daily lives. You cannot engineer or regulate out the stupid in people so stop trying, and let a higher power see to their demise.

“I’ll keep my Money and Guns you can keep the Change”
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The patchwork of laws across the country need to be streamlined...


I agree.  Good gun laws in some states are nullified by GunRunners in other states who make a living
buying in easy purchase states and selling in Good Gun Law States like NY.

The only practical solution is a Federal Gun Law (similar to NY's pistol permit laws) that apply to all
states.  States can always add to the federal gun laws in their states but with a good Federal standard
much of the cross border sales would be eliminated.


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federal healthcare
federal gun laws
federal ID
federal housing
federal food
federal water
federal loans
federal tea


the list is endless comrade......it's a shame we call ourselves America

federal police
federal IRS
federal power
federal investigators
federal doctors
federal educators
federal trades


yes,,,,consolidation.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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He Was Just "Keeping His Family Safe"!

Indiana dad cleaning gun shoots 9-month-old son in the head,
and himself in the leg


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A 9-month-old Indiana boy was fighting for his life on Thursday after being accidentally shot in
the head by his father.

WTHR reported that 31-year-old John Hambaugh, III, was in his kitchen cleaning his gun on
Wednesday when the weapon discharged. The round traveled through Hambaugh’s left thigh
and into his 9-month-old son’s head, who was thought to be standing next to his father.
Hambaugh and his 9-month-old son were transported to Community Howard Regional Hospital
in Kokomo. Hambaugh was expected to make a full recovery, but the child was listed in critical
condition on Thursday.


Another Lame GunHugger... another kid paying the price.  


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He Was Just "Keeping His Family Safe"!

Indiana dad cleaning gun shoots 9-month-old son in the head,
and himself in the leg




Another Lame GunHugger... another kid paying the price.  


it was his kid....to bad he wasn't aborted....you see it has nothing to do with guns....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Whether we like it or not gun control will only gather more momentum.   What with the terrorism, school shootings, attacks on law enforcement etc.  And it will be aided by the explosive/enhanced use of all the various types of media exposure,the Gov't greatest tool.   Police Unions will demand it for the safety (theres that word again) of it's rank and file.   We are in the age of the dinosaurs now before the meteor hits.    It may take 30 or more years,not in our lifetime,but it will come.   These current laws are only the beggining,in it's infancy.   Not saying it's good or bad, but the egg has been hatched and as they say in the movies "it's got legs".
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