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Quoted from Box A Rox

President Barack Obama:
"It's 'Insane' That People On A No-Fly List Can Legally Buy A Gun In The U.S."
"If you’re too dangerous to board a plane, you’re too dangerous, by definition, to buy a gun."
~~~ How can you not agree with this one? ~~~

Quoted from CICERO

How can you not agree?  The people on a "no-fly list" are not guilty of a crime.  

Quoted from Box A Rox

Once on the plane... they then would be criminals... after they blow up the plane.  

Quoted from CICERO

What is the crime they are guilty of that keeps them off the plane?  If they can't get on a plane, why aren't they in jail?

Why are they allowed to get on trains, buses, subways, and cruise ships?

Box loves his extrajudicial justice system.

Quoted from Box A Rox

No shirt, No shoes, No service.  There is no 2nd amendment type right to air travel.
BTW, good idea to ban them from subways & buses since they are frequent targets of terrorism.

Quoted from CICERO

There is a 5th Amendment that guarantees due process.  I know you hate the 5th Amendment and would like to repeal it because of your fear of guns and "terrorists".  

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PORTLAND, Ore. – In a landmark ruling, a federal judge struck down as unconstitutional
the government’s procedures for people on the No Fly List to challenge their inclusion.
The decision came in an American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit brought on behalf of
13 Americans who found themselves on the list without any notice, reasons, or
meaningful way to get off it.

The judge ordered the government to create a new process that remedies these shortcomings,
calling the current process “wholly ineffective” and a violation of the Fifth Amendment's
guarantee of due process. The ruling also granted a key request in the lawsuit, ordering
the government to tell the ACLU’s clients why they are on the No Fly List and give them
the opportunity to challenge their inclusion on the list before the judge.

Quoted from Box A Rox

June 2014


Not a violation of the 5th amendment.  Sorry Cissy!  

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The judge ordered the government to create a new process that remedies these shortcomings,
calling the current process “wholly ineffective” and a violation of the Fifth Amendment's
guarantee of due process.

Quoted from CICERO

Is that what you read?

Quoted from Box A Rox

Yes.  The ruling fixed the due process issue.
I also read:
“Our clients will finally get the due process to which they are entitled under the Constitution."

Quoted Text

"After years of fighting in court for complete secrecy and losing, it's good that the government is finally now going to tell people of their status on the No Fly List," said Hina Shamsi, director of the ACLU National Security Project and the lead attorney on the case, in a statement.

"Unfortunately, we've found that the government's new redress process falls far short of constitutional requirements because it denies our clients meaningful notice, evidence, and a hearing. The government had an opportunity to come up with a fair process but failed, so we're challenging it in court again."

Quoted from CICERO

Quote from ACLU


It seems boxy supports Obama's plan to violate the 2nd Amendment by violating the 5th Amendment.

Quoted from Box A Rox

As you posted, the ACLU suit will see if it's constitutional or not...
and then the Govt will act accordingly.

Quoted from CICERO

Until then, the federal government will violate your rights, like it has for 13 years of the no-fly list.  This time including violating your 2nd Amendment rights.