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And why should we care what MLK's niece thinks???
Does she speak for MLK?  
What is the significance of who her uncle happened to be?


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We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools.
Martin Luther King, Jr.


Very good advice.


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Lets see... a woman who has her birth control through Planned Parenthood... and some Right Wing Nut
A$$hole shuts down her facility... so now because of GOP interference she is out of birth control options.  


Did they also shut down condom sales or hospitals or pharmacies no, did the GOP force her legs open no. I always wondered how people like you would make it through life without someone holding their hand


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Did they also shut down condom sales or hospitals or pharmacies no, did the GOP force her legs open no. I always wondered how people like you would make it through life without someone holding their hand


Why does it bother you so much that poor and low income women get their birth control for free or at
low cost.
The more women using birth control, the less women having unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
If you are so against abortion... then why not help prevent them?

(Unless what you really want is to control women)


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Why does it bother you so much that poor and low income women get their birth control for free or at
low cost.
The more women using birth control, the less women having unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
If you are so against abortion... then why not help prevent them?

(Unless what you really want is to control women)


I have no problem with women getting their birth control for free, in fact the best prevention is free. Other forms of prevention are dirt cheap and can be had for pennies, if they can't afford those preventions then there is always the free 100% guaranteed way to go. This is about responsibility, I can't rob a bank and then go back the next day to return the money without expecting consequences, taking responsibility is preventing consequences from happening in the 1st place.


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If you are so against abortion... then why not help prevent them?

(Unless what you really want is to control women)


This is Orwellian!  If you suggest that men and women be responsible for providing for their own birth control(which includes self control for free) you are accused of wanting to control women.  But the government taking money through taxation, offering birth control with that money, and advertising to women to come and get your birth control from the government is freedom.  Dependency is freedom.  Freedom is control.


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This is Orwellian!  If you suggest that men and women be responsible for providing for their own birth control(which includes self control for free) you are accused of wanting to control women.  But the government taking money through taxation, offering birth control with that money, and advertising to women to come and get your birth control from the government is freedom.  Dependency is freedom.  Freedom is control.


And now we've completed the circle once again.

Take away FREE birth control and you promote both abortions and unwanted kids on welfare.

Given those two choices,
#1 paying for free birth control
or
#2 abortions and unwanted kids on welfare,
I choose #1.  It appears Cissy and Henry choose #2.

It would be nice if we didn't have to make those decisions, but that is the reality today.


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And now we've completed the circle once again.

Take away FREE birth control and you promote both abortions and unwanted kids on welfare.

Given those two choices,
#1 paying for free birth control
or
#2 abortions and unwanted kids on welfare,
I choose #1.  It appears Cissy and Henry choose #2.

It would be nice if we didn't have to make those decisions, but that is the reality today.


Birth control is free box, it means don't spread your legs if you are not ready for what could happen and guess what that prevention doesn't cost nobody a dime. You act as if the women has no choice but to spread her legs as if every pregnancy is somehow forced on her. Your just pissed and in denial, go for a walk and cool down box, it must be hard watching all your arguments fall apart right in front of your eyes.


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Birth control is free box, it means don't spread your legs if you are not ready for what could happen and guess what that prevention doesn't cost nobody a dime. You act as if the women has no choice but to spread her legs as if every pregnancy is somehow forced on her. Your just pissed and in denial, go for a walk and cool down box, it must be hard watching all your arguments fall apart right in front of your eyes.


Personally I agree with most Republicans (until the arrival of the TeaBaggers) who supported free birth
control for poor or low income women.
I'm on the side of George HW Bush, Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, etc.  They understood the best way
to reduce abortion is to help prevent unwanted pregnancy.

TeaBaggers aren't interested in reducing the number of pregnancies and saving taxpayer
dollars when it comes to Birth Control.  They want WOMEN CONTROL not birth control.


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THE BARRY GOLDWATER AWARD
Each year, Planned Parenthood Federation of America  presents The Barry Goldwater Award to
an outstanding public official who has supported Planned Parenthood and reproductive health
issues.


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#2 abortions and unwanted kids on welfare,
I choose #1.  It appears Cissy and Henry choose #2.


It appears box looks at children born into welfare as permanent liabilities and a drain on society.  They will never become an asset and contributor to society.  Box has written them off as a permanent class of social leeches.  What a selfish world view.

But he cares about the poor.  Just not those pesky welfare babies.


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It appears box looks at children born into welfare as permanent liabilities and a drain on society.  They will never become an asset and contributor to society.  Box has written them off as a permanent class of social leeches.  What a selfish world view.
But he cares about the poor.  Just not those pesky welfare babies.


We should frame this post!

It could be used in a demonstration class called "How To Create A Straw Man!"   

Cissy... Bubby... You can argue with yourself if you choose, but leave me out of it.


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We should frame this post!

It could be used in a demonstration class called "How To Create A Straw Man!"   

Cissy... Bubby... You can argue with yourself if you choose, but leave me out of it.


How to give two false choice arguments AND a straw man.  I can never out-do you.


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And now we've completed the circle once again.

Take away FREE birth control and you promote both abortions and unwanted kids on welfare.

Given those two choices,
#1 paying for free birth control
or
#2 abortions and unwanted kids on welfare,
I choose #1.  It appears Cissy and Henry choose #2.

It would be nice if we didn't have to make those decisions, but that is the reality today.



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