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I prefer they do what people have done for thousands of years, roll of their sleeves and make it work. You act as if poor people never had to take responsibility for themselves, millions of people in poverty toughed it out and ended up raising successful kids, nobody ever said it would be easy and many sacrificed a great deal but they did it, and that was without government assistance.


Exactly !!!

How many of our grandparents/greatgrandparents came to the US legally of course, came here with NOTHING, went to work and raised families
WITHOUT government assistance?  

Here's an example how things have changed even in the church

When my grandmother was ill, my Mom was attending St. Adalberts and the nuns would go over and help with cleaning the house and cooking.

When my Mom  lost her baby at a few hours old, the priest at St. Adalberts knew the pain my parents were feeling (they had the funeral before my Mom got out of the hospital and she never got to hold my sister) well the priest back then told them their was a space for the baby at St. Adalberts  
Cemetary and not to worry about perpetual care costs

Fast track many years ahead my Mom wants to place a stone on the baby's grave, "Father" Urban refuses to let her have it cemented in and threatens
it will be taken out because perpetual care was never paid for even knowing that the fee was waived when the baby died.

Fast track I'm an adult and hit on a lottery ticket, not huge but to me a good amount, the FIRST thing I did was go over to St. Adalberts and pay for the
Perpetual care so that the baby's stone CANNOT be removed, and I go to my Mom and hand her the paperwork and we hug and cry.

Back when my grandparents came here from Poland there were jobs. My grandfather first worked in Detroit Michigan, came to Schenectady and worked at GE.

Through the depression they like most had hard times but never asked for aide, there was the church and always family.

The problems now are the lack of jobs or very low paying jobs.   The incentive not to work.  The churches themselves have gone from a place to express
faith and find solace to a money making venture.

My grandfather never owned a car, he either walked to work or rode a horse. He worked long hours, and took great care of his home along with my
grandmother on Hullett. St. Because they had PRIDE.

And its because of the government itself that manufacturing is overseas, that our tax money is sent overseas to "help" others while Americans are losing
their sense of pride, accomplishment and self worth.

People have lost respect for themselves and others.

Morals have gone down the drain and many are brought up now with no sense of responsibility.

So millions on welfare, there are no jobs, and the government is happy because millions in their database and they have the control.





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They were relieved they didn't have to take responsibility for their actions, nothing screws up a fun summer like being knocked up, now they can go back out and party whoo hoo


I bet the walking talking sperm was there holding her feet in the stirrups


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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yet you support all the baby Tonkos and wanna-bes who will vote to terminate a 5 year old if the votes added up from the lesbian feminists!


You don't have a clue who I support.


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The perpetual care fee can't be waived.  It is required by the state.  Someone (maybe the priest) must have covered it for your mother.  Basically, every plot sold after a certain time (I don't know the year but at least the past 45-50 years) had a perpetual care fee attached.  Those sold before the fee was mandated by the state and established are still eligible for having the grass mowed and watered and general maintenance of the actual grave.  Every cemetery in New York is required to deposit the principle of the Perpetual Care Fund in an account and is only allowed to use the interest to pay for general cemetery maintenance - basically cutting the grass, filling in sink holes as graves settle, watering and such.
Monuments are the property and responsibility of the family that placed them, and are not technically the responsibility of the cemetery owner nor covered under perpetual care.  Vandalism of one's cemetery monument may sometimes covered under a person's homeowner's insurance.   If a monument is damaged by vandalism or weather or old age, the cemetery itself is not responsible for the monument.  An attempt is made to contact the living descendants to have them arrange for repairs.  In the past, some cemetery's have stepped in and provided minor repairs but with interest rates so low (on Perpetual Care Fund accounts)--- most cemeteries do not have the money to do anything more than cut the grass over the graves and plow the snow on the cemetery roadways.


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I prefer they do what people have done for thousands of years, roll of their sleeves and make it work. You act as if poor people never had to take responsibility for themselves, millions of people in poverty toughed it out and ended up raising successful kids, nobody ever said it would be easy and many sacrificed a great deal but they did it, and that was without government assistance.


The person seeking an abortion for an unwanted pregnancy IS TAKING RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THEMSELVES.

They don't want, can't afford and know how to solve the issue... but GOP Right Wing Religious
Zealots attempt to prevent their actions.






The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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DVOR my sister was born and died in 1954. As the priest knew my grandparents and Mom as they went to St. Adalberts weekly, my Mom married there and her and her sibling all attended St. Adalberts School and were baptized etc there, The priest knew my Mom, knew how hard she tried to carry her
baby to term (she was on bedrest for two months) and knew that she was in much pain from the loss he  was the one to tell my Mom dont' worry about the cemetery fee. I don't know if the priest paid for it himself, very well could have as my Mom said he was a wonderful caring man.

My Mom purchased a small stone many years later, with a little lamb on it, and was there when it was placed on the grave. But because there was no
record of perpetual care Urban threatened that it could be removed by the church/cemetery and could not be cemented in. The same was said to her by
the diocese.  

She worried everytime she went to visit her daugthers grave that the stone would have been removed by the church.

That's why that was the first thing I did , pay the perpetual fee , get the paperwork and put my Mom's mind at ease, at least for that.

That's when we ALL stopped going to St. Adalberts Church, for it wasn't a place of worship anymore, it was a place of needless pain and worry put on my
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The person seeking an abortion for an unwanted pregnancy IS TAKING RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THEMSELVES.

They don't want, can't afford and know how to solve the issue... but GOP Right Wing Religious
Zealots attempt to prevent their actions.



If they were responsible they would have taken precautions and there are many of those out there for dirt cheap or free. What you are saying is women are to stupid to know better.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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If they were responsible they would have taken precautions and there are many of those out there for dirt cheap or free. What you are saying is women are to stupid to know better.


With the GOP outlawing abortion for Rape and Incest... it isn't the women who aren't taking responsibility
for their actions, it's the men who rape them, or the politicians who condone it.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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With the GOP outlawing abortion for Rape and Incest... it isn't the women who aren't taking responsibility
for their actions, it's the men who rape them, or the politicians who condone it.


Oh fckn please, what are those cases 1 out of every 500,000 abortions that were performed, so what's your excuse for the other 499,999? stupidity, poverty, lack of education what bs excuse will you use.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Oh fckn please, what are those cases 1 out of every 500,000 abortions that were performed, so what's your excuse for the other 499,999? stupidity, poverty, lack of education what bs excuse will you use.


Lets see... a woman who has her birth control through Planned Parenthood... and some Right Wing Nut
A$$hole shuts down her facility... so now because of GOP interference she is out of birth control options.  


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Lets see... a woman who has her birth control through Planned Parenthood... and some Right Wing Nut
A$$hole shuts down her facility... so now because of GOP interference she is out of birth control options.  


I'm 53 years old and have never been to a Planned Parenthood clinic, there are MANY other options for woman, many other clinics. When I was in need of
female care I went to Carver (now hometown health) and St. Clares Family Health Center (now Ellis Health Center)

http://www.wellness.com/find/obgyn/ny/schenectady

Low cost clinics that also take Medicaid such as Hometown Health and Ellis.
Ellis Primary Care - Clifton Park  

Medical Center of Clifton Park
103 Sitterly Road, Clifton Park, NY 12065
Phone: 518.579.2650
[more]

Ellis Primary Care - Nott Street, Schenectady  

1201 Nott Street, Medical Arts Building, Suite 307
Schenectady, NY 12308
Phone: 518.243.3388
[more]

Ellis Primary Care - Latham  

930 Albany Shaker Road, Latham, NY 12110
Phone: 518.220.9413
[more]

Ellis Primary Care - McClellan Street, Schenectady  

Family medicine residents also care for patients at the Family Health Center,
which is the training facility for the Ellis Family Medicine Residency.

Ellis Health Center, Cushing Building, Suite 101
624 McClellan Street, Schenectady, NY 12304
Phone: 518. 382.2260
[more]

Ellis Primary Care - Glenville

460 Saratoga Road, Glenville, NY 12302
Phone: 518.243.3360
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http://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/program/longterm/familyplanbenprog.htm

What is the Family Planning Benefit Program (FPBP)?

The FPBP is a public health insurance program for New Yorkers who need family planning services, but may not be able to afford them. It is intended to increase access to confidential family planning services and to enable teens, women and men of childbearing age to prevent and/or reduce the incidence of unintentional pregnancies.

The help is out there Box, so many abortions COULD be prevented and you know it : (
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Planned Parenthood is one of the nation's leading providers of high-quality, affordable health care
for women, men, and young people, and the nation's largest provider of sex education. Planned
Parenthood also works with partner organizations worldwide to improve the sexual health and
well-being of individuals and families everywhere.

Planned Parenthood has 71 independent local affiliates that operate nearly 750 health centers
throughout the United States, providing high-quality services to women, men, and teens.

Planned Parenthood often is the only source of family planning for a large proportion of the
women we serve.


One in five women in the U.S. has visited a Planned Parenthood
health center at least once in her life.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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