So is it classified information or is it public knowledge, you said people sign away their rights when they get a phone, where in the contract does it say that. And if it does say that why is it illegal to bring it out to the public. You don't even know what you are defending.
Henry. I understand that you disagree that access to phone records SHOULD be legal, but that doesn't change the fact that phone records are not protected by US Constitutional law.
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Police can get phone records without a warrant thanks to a 1979 Supreme Court ruling, Smith v. Maryland, which found that the Constitution's Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure doesn't apply to a list of phone numbers.
If you don't like the law then CHANGE IT. Whining about it does no good at all... as does denying that it exists.
NOTE: If you want to find out this information and can't find it... just ask. Doing your research for you is getting old.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Henry. I understand that you disagree that access to phone records SHOULD be legal, but that doesn't change the fact that phone records are not protected by US Constitutional law.
If you don't like the law then CHANGE IT. Whining about it does no good at all... as does denying that it exists.
NOTE: If you want to find out this information and can't find it... just ask. Doing your research for you is getting old.
You are still dodging the question, if this was public knowledge then why are they going after Snowden, you are saying the info was already out there but then you said what he did might be a threat to National Security, like I said you don't know what the hell to think.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
You are still dodging the question, if this was public knowledge then why are they going after Snowden, you are saying the info was already out there but then you said what he did might be a threat to National Security, like I said you don't know what the hell to think.
It isn't "Public Knowledge" but it also isn't PROTECTED Data. Police and FBI have been accessing phone data for years LEGALLY for crime investigation. To monitor phone calls they would need a court order, but to collect who you call and who calls you, they need nothing.
Again. If I downloaded secret data from the NSA without authorization, (MY GUESS) is that it's a crime. The actual SECRET may be who is being monitored... Al Qaeda? Organized Crime? Militia Criminals? Domestic Terrorists who live in Galway? Just WHO may be an important part of a police or FBI Investigation and making that knowledge public would jeopardize the investigation, agents in the field or informers like Mr Snowden himself.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
It isn't "Public Knowledge" but it also isn't PROTECTED Data. Police and FBI have been accessing phone data for years LEGALLY for crime investigation.
Box, the NSA is taking the records off of the phone company's server and storing it in a government data base. ALL PHONE RECORDS...Not specific phone records for a crime investigation. This isn't asking a private company for specific records to solve a specific crime, it is taking ALL THE RECORDS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
I still can't believe you continue to defend the indefensible...You must have been a good loyal soldier. I bet you have all kinds of pins and buttons to put on your costume recognizing your loyalty.
Box, the NSA is taking the records off of the phone company's server and storing it in a government data base. ALL PHONE RECORDS...Not specific phone records for a crime investigation. This isn't asking a private company for specific records to solve a specific crime, it is taking ALL THE RECORDS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
I still can't believe you continue to defend the indefensible...You must have been a good loyal soldier. I bet you have all kinds of pins and buttons to put on your costume recognizing your loyalty.
If it's not protected data, and the Govt can collect it LEGALLY... having it stored on thousands of vulnerable data bases throughout private companies limits the effectiveness of that data.
If you were looking for one phone call... Say from Israel to a Galway NY Domestic Terrorist who was at work at GE in Schenectady... and you needed to access three different phone companies to find the actual numbers called and time of the call... it would take weeks. On one database that ia at the NSA, it would take seconds.
If on the other hand, your intent is to slow down or stop the process of apprehending Domestic Terrorists... then put the data on as many servers as possible.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Public Split over Impact of NSA Leak, But Most Want Snowden Prosecuted
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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