So you do support intervention in another country that doesn't effect us, by the way do you know who the FSA is and what massacres they have done in recent months, maybe look into that before you go blindly supporting the president in arming them.
What words did I post in this thread that leads you to your assumption: "So you do support intervention in another country that doesn't effect us,"
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
What words did I post in this thread that leads you to your assumption: "So you do support intervention in another country that doesn't effect us,"
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that I support unlimited 'military intervention' in Syria...
You put unlimited which is the key word, that means you support some type of intervention, instead of just putting "military intervention you put UNLIMITED military intervention.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
You put unlimited which is the key word, that means you support some type of intervention, instead of just putting "military intervention you put UNLIMITED military intervention.
So the word "unlimited" means that I support what ever actions that are taken.
If limited US military food drops were proposed to save the lives of millions of Syrians... yea I might support that. Military support for evacuation of refugees to a neighboring country... I might support that. Drone intelligence to verify the actions on the ground... I might support that.
Unlimited total military support for what ever actions necessary... of course I don't support that.
Do you see no possible military action that you would support in Syria? Absolutely none???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So the word "unlimited" means that I support what ever actions that are taken.
If limited US military food drops were proposed to save the lives of millions of Syrians... yea I might support that. Military support for evacuation of refugees to a neighboring country... I might support that. Drone intelligence to verify the actions on the ground... I might support that.
Unlimited total military support for what ever actions necessary... of course I don't support that.
Do you see no possible military action that you would support in Syria? Absolutely none???
Nope none at all, that country is not our problem and arming terrorist like Obama is proposing is definitely not the answer.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Nope none at all, that country is not our problem...
I'm not surprised. RP Groupies seem to be an isolationist lot who show very little compassion for their fellow Americans, let alone some Syrian.
Something to consider:
America and Isolationism
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When events began happening in Europe that would eventually lead to World War II, many Americans took an increasingly hard line towards getting involved. The events of World War I had fed into America's natural desire to isolationism, and this was reflected by the passage of Neutrality Acts along with the general hands off approach to the events that unfolded on the world stage.
While America was wallowing in neutrality and isolationism, events were occurring in Europe and Asia that were causing increasing tension across the regions.
The argument has been made that US Isolationism was part of the cause of WW2.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I'm not surprised. RP Groupies seem to be an isolationist lot who show very little compassion for their fellow Americans, let alone some Syrian.
And why are they our problem, are you even paying attention to the actions of Assad and the FSA, they're animals and nothing good can come from us being involved. That part of the world has been in turmoil for centuries, before we were even a country and nothing we do will stop that.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Isolationism? The League of Nations created the middle eastern problems we have today. The French and British created the nations that we have been intervening in over the past 40 years. Those governments are nothing but puppets of the British Empire and French colonies after the WWI. They put these dictators in power after WWI, and we have been protecting that power to prevent the self determination of their people. We are suppressing democracy in the name of protecting democracy. And the leaders of these nations were put into power to protect the eventual state of Israel.
WASHINGTON—A U.S. military proposal for arming Syrian rebels also calls for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced from Jordanian territory to protect Syrian refugees and rebels who would train there, according to U.S. officials.
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View Graphics .. Asked by the White House to develop options for Syria, military planners have said that creating an area to train and equip rebel forces would require keeping Syrian aircraft well away from the Jordanian border.
To do that, the military envisages creating a no-fly zone stretching up to 25 miles into Syria which would be enforced using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials.
Washington Institute Senior Fellow Andrew Tabler explains the ramifications of the U.S. authorizing the delivery of arms to rebels in Syria. Photo: Getty Images. . The White House is currently considering proposals to arm the rebels in Jordan, according to U.S. officials. White House National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden declined to comment on the details of those deliberations.
The limited no-fly zone wouldn't require the destruction of Syrian antiaircraft batteries, U.S. officials said.
Officials said the White House could decide to authorize the U.S. to arm and train rebels in Jordan without authorizing the no-fly zone recommended by military planners. A White House announcement could come soon, officials said.
Jordan has been inundated by a flood of refugees that Jordanian and U.S. officials say is a growing threat to the kingdom, a key U.S. ally in the region. The U.S. has already moved Patriot air defense batteries and F-16 fighter planes to Jordan, which could be integral to any no-fly zone if President Barack Obama approves the military proposal.
Proponents of the proposal say a no-fly zone could be imposed without a U.N. Security Council resolution, since the U.S. would not regularly enter Syrian airspace and wouldn't hold Syrian territory.
U.S. planes have air-to-air missiles that could destroy Syrian planes from long ranges. But officials said that aircraft may be required to enter Syrian air space if threatened by advancing Syrian planes. Such an incursion by the U.S., if it were to happen, could be justified as self-defense, officials say.
Military planners believe it would be dangerous to set up a major operation inside Jordan to arm the rebels without creating a no-fly zone to hold Syrian aircraft back.
"Unless you have a good buffer zone inside Syria, you risk too much," said a U.S. official briefed on the military proposal.
Creating even a limited buffer zone that Syrian airplanes cannot enter will be expensive, costing an estimated $50 million a day. Still, officials say that a full no-fly zone covering all of Syria would cost far more money. Officials said the U.S. hopes the operation would be conducted with other allies, who could help pay for the cost of a no-fly zone.
The U.S. planes involved in the no-fly zone would fly from Jordan and possibly from Navy ships in the Mediterranean or Red Sea. Jordan has offered the U.S. and its allies the use of its military bases to protect a safe zone inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials. Jordanian officials in Washington had no immediate comment.
U.S. military officials believe it will take about a month to get such a limited no fly zone up and running, officials say. Officials say there may be a limited window to do so. If Russia decides to provide advanced, long-range S-300 air defense weapons to Syria, it would make such a limited no-fly zone far more risky for U.S. pilots.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So your driving down the street and you see a man getting beat up, a woman getting assalted- do you keep going?
No Sombody... Henry would stop and take video so he could make a buck off others misery. It's a RP kind of thing... The rest of America doesn't get it.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So your driving down the street and you see a man getting beat up, a woman getting assalted- do you keep going?
If they're both murderous killers no, you do know the rebels are made up of Al Qaeda followers don't you, watch the videos I posted, do you want to really arm or help that group out, that is what Obama is planning.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So exactly what is the Obama Administration announced on Syria, that has the board Isolationists panties in a knot???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
No Sombody... Henry would stop and take video so he could make a buck off others misery. It's a RP kind of thing... The rest of America doesn't get it.
Actually I have helped people who were being harassed and robbed before, one example is a scumbag who went into the better neighborhoods office and grabbed the ladies pocket book, I ended up trapping him in a fenced in area and recovered her belongings. Guess who wasn't there to stop the crime or get her stuff back, those who you would of called instead of stepping up like a man.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So exactly what is the Obama Administration announced on Syria, that has the board Isolationists panties in a knot???
Does it really matter what they announce? They won't tell you the entire story... maybe we'll find out when the next "leak" happens..
The most transparent Presidential adminstration in American history?....what a f'ing joke
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Does it really matter what they announce? They won't tell you the entire story... maybe we'll find out when the next "leak" happens.. The most transparent Presidential adminstration in American history?....what a f'ing joke
Michael Hayden, NSA Director Under Bush: "Obama More Transparent On Data Collection Than We Were"
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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