Don't forget that John Kennedy had the South Vietnamese president assassinated, and don't forget that John Kennedy was ESCALATING our presence in Vietnam NOT decreasing it like the wish-ful thinkers who make up the "Camelot baloney."  The Kennedy family likes to disparage Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon by trying to pin the blame on them for Vietnam.  The fact is that Johnson didn't want to lose the war that the Kennedys had dragged us deeper and deeper into, and Nixon was the brilliant statesman who was able to eventually get a peace treaty and get us out of the quagmire.

LOL @ John Kennedy had the South Vietnamese president assassinated,

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LOL @ John Kennedy had the South Vietnamese president assassinated,

2 November 1963

JFK in his own word -- taped in the Oval Office of the White House following the assassination of President Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam on 2 November 1963-- Kennedy said  " I should not have given my support to it" and reflected on how they had been planning the coup since August 1963.

John Kennedy knew of the coup from the earliest part of its planning and he gave his OK to the coup.  There is absolutely no question about that.

So do you still believe in Camelot and the Tooth Fairy ????????????????????????????????????????

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2 November 1963

JFK in his own word -- taped in the Oval Office of the White House following the assassination of President Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam on 2 November 1963-- Kennedy said  " I should not have given my support to it" and reflected on how they had been planning the coup since August 1963.

John Kennedy knew of the coup from the earliest part of its planning and he gave his OK to the coup.  There is absolutely no question about that.

Kennedy DID give his ok for a plot which was totally Vietnamese in origin.  What Kennedy agreed to was
continued US support if Diem were overthrown... The coup was supposed to be a bloodless coup, where
Diem and his family were supposed to take refuge in France.
Like much of Vietnamese politics... it didn't go as planned.

Quoted from Box A Rox

Kennedy DID give his ok for a plot which was totally Vietnamese in origin.  What Kennedy agreed to was
continued US support if Diem were overthrown... The coup was supposed to be a bloodless coup, where
Diem and his family were supposed to take refuge in France.
Like much of Vietnamese politics... it didn't go as planned.

Come on now -- you can't be that stupid nor do I believe you think that Kennedy was that stupid that he OKed a coup but didn't think there was the slightest chance that Diem would be killed in the process ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????    People die in coups -- they usually do NOT go "as planned."

So if you believe that Kennedy didn't know any better that coups could leave people dead --- then you are saying that Kennedy was either ignorant or incompetent.   I have never said that the Kennedys were ignorant or incompetent ... just ruthless, self-absorbed, power hungry .. and over-rated.  

I never was into the make believe fairy tale of Camelot, and i was never one of those folks who fawned all over everything Kennedy.   I always thought Johnson and. later, Nixon, were much better presidents even with their own personal flaws.  

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Come on now -- you can't be that stupid nor do I believe you think that Kennedy was that stupid that he OKed a coup but didn't think there was the slightest chance that Diem would be killed in the process ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????    People die in coups -- they usually do NOT go "as planned."

So if you believe that Kennedy didn't know any better that coups could leave people dead --- then you are saying that Kennedy was either ignorant or incompetent.   I have never said that the Kennedys were ignorant or incompetent ... just ruthless, self-absorbed, power hungry .. and over-rated.  

I never was into the make believe fairy tale of Camelot, and i was never one of those folks who fawned all over everything Kennedy.   I always thought Johnson and. later, Nixon, were much better presidents even with their own personal flaws.  

You know those calendars where you "learn a new word each day"... Or those that have "Words to
live by" every day...
DVOR's has a "Troll a Day"!

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You know those calendars where you "learn a new word each day"... Or those that have "Words to
live by" every day...
DVOR's has a "Troll a Day"!

Sure, you can't explain why a well educated man like John Kennedy would have given an OK to a coup without realizing that it could very well end up with Diem being killed in the process.  The FACT is that John Kennedy OKed the coup -- President Diem ended up at room temperature -- and therefore, John Kennedy was responsible (along with others) in that assassination.  There is no way to deny it or try to gloss it over with some Camelot fantasy that the "good knight" always acted gloriously and chivalrously and never did anything wrong.