Yup, you are right, I've never been used like a death merchant. I can only look from the outside. Maybe if I was conditioned to kill on command in nations that pose no national threat(Vietnam), I too would be blindly patriotic to all military actions. I'd never judge the mission, I would just kill, then blame the politicians that ordered me to kill.
Yup, you are right, I've never been used like a death merchant. I can only look from the outside. Maybe if I was conditioned to kill on command in nations that pose no national threat(Vietnam), I too would be blindly patriotic to all military actions. I'd never judge the mission, I would just kill, then blame the politicians that ordered me to kill.
The part you don't get is the vision you have of those that served.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Yup, you are right, I've never been used like a death merchant. I can only look from the outside. Maybe if I was conditioned to kill on command in nations that pose no national threat(Vietnam), I too would be blindly patriotic to all military actions. I'd never judge the mission, I would just kill, then blame the politicians that ordered me to kill.
Cicero's words speak for himself... and he's proud of it. He's never done anything that didn't benefit only 'himself'. He was never a part of something bigger than himself, nor did he ever consider it.
Cic is looking from inside his view and sees no reason to do anything for anyone except himself. (Selfish)
He looks at anyone who has sacrificed for others as a "chump"... someone to be used.
I don't think that any amount of explaining it to him will help. He sees it one way and no other. He views the US involvement in the Vietnam War as a US INVASION OF VIETNAM... (a phrase he's used on this board often) And no amount of FACTS will prove him wrong.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
People of normal intelligence would have known better than to be used in a criminal murderous way.
You are obviously far from an expert on normal intelligence as displayed over and over by your rants and childish whines and comments! GROW UP!! Just because you think it is so doesn't make it so!!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Cicero's Vietnam Invasion: Welcome of US Marines landing in Danang. (Cicero's Invasion)
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The White House confirms reports that, at the request of South Vietnam, the United States is sending two battalions of U.S. Marines for security work at the Da Nang air base, which will hopefully free South Vietnamese troops for combat.
On March 1, Ambassador Maxwell Taylor informed South Vietnamese Premier Phan Huy Quat that the United States was preparing to send 3,500 U.S. Marines to Vietnam.
Gen. Nguyen Van Thieu, chief of the Armed Forces Council approved, but asked that the Marines be "brought ashore in the most inconspicuous way feasible."
The Marines began landing near Da Nang on March 8.
I'm amazed at how ignorant some on this board are of basic US history.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I'm amazed at how ignorant some on this board are of basic US history.
Were you fighting the same Ho Chi Mihn that the US supported and funded during WWII to fight against Japan in Japanese controlled Indochina? Yes, of course you were. Before he was a friend to US war efforts, until he was no longer useful. And 58K Americans died at the hands of those we once armed to help fight our wars. Just like Afghanistan, just like Iraq, and soon to be just like Syria.
The part you don't get is the vision you have of those that served.
I get the vision. The Japanese Kamakazi pilots had the same vision. They were sacrificing for a cause greater then themselves, and greater than their families. They gave it all up for their country and their leaders. In a military sense, they were great selfless "warriors". I would call them psychopathic killers, some that wear the costume, regardless of what nations costume, may say they served with "honor" and "duty" and are "patriots".
I still don't see where there was any threat to any US citizen that needed defending.
We aren't the world police.
If an actual threat to the US had existed, we would have had a declaration of war.
Hitler had as much right to enter other countries as the US did.
None.
Poland and those other countries that Germany invaded posed no threat to Germany, hadn't been sponsoring terrorists against Germany nor otherwise attempting to inflict injury on Germany and her interests nor were they abusing and killing their own people (like Saddam Hussein was) nor were they violating international law.
So Hitler did NOT have the right to enter those countries.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
Poland and those other countries that Germany invaded posed no threat to Germany, hadn't been sponsoring terrorists against Germany nor otherwise attempting to inflict injury on Germany and her interests nor were they abusing and killing their own people (like Saddam Hussein was) nor were they violating international law.
So Hitler did NOT have the right to enter those countries.
So by your logic any country would be justified to invade the US, who sponsors terrorist organizations, abuses and kills citizens every day on the streets with it's police.
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