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rpforpres
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In Ron Paul's America, a hard working roofer who falls off a roof and is paralyzed, is FREE to starve,
along with his wife and kids.  
In Ron Paul's America, everyone is FREE except when it comes to Choice... then Ron Paul Dictates to
a raped woman that she MUST give birth to a rapists baby... even if the rapist is her dad.

If you look at the support that Ron Paul, and now Mini Me Paul has in this country... it's a very loud
1% of America.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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... it's a very loud 1% of America.


It only takes 3%, so we're 1/3 of the way there.lol


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The last line says....'if we are only free to make good decisions, we are not really free'.

Question........what constitutes a 'good decision' and what constitutes a 'bad decision'?

And by who's standards?

just askin.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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The last line says....'if we are only free to make good decisions, we are not really free'.

Question........what constitutes a 'good decision' and what constitutes a 'bad decision'?

And by who's standards?

just askin.


By your own standards, being allowed to fail should be a learning experience, if you failed at running your store you will learn from your mistakes and improve later on. If you drunk a case of beer and woke up the next morning and felt like you were going to die you will learn to drink less. You don't need the government to regulate your actions, your actions will regulate themselves through experience and learning.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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CHILD HUNGER FACTS

Good nutrition, particularly in the first three years of life, is important in establishing a good foundation that
has implications for a child’s future physical and mental health, academic achievement, and economic
productivity. Unfortunately, food insecurity is an obstacle that threatens that critical foundation.
According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), 16.7 million children under 18 in the
United States live in households where they are unable to consistently access enough nutritious food
necessary for a healthy life.  Although food insecurity is harmful to any individual, it can be particularly
devastating among children due to their increased vulnerability and the potential for long-term
consequences.



Food Insecurity

16.7 million children lived in food insecure households in 2011.
20% or more of the child population in 36 states and D.C. lived in food insecure households in 2010.
  The District of Columbia (30.7%) and Oregon (29.0%) had the highest rates of children in households
without consistent access to food.
In 2010, the top five states with the highest rate of food insecure children under 18 are the District
of Columbia, Oregon, Arizona, New Mexico, & Florida.
In 2010, the top five states with the lowest rate of food insecure children under 18 are North Dakota,
New Hampshire, Virginia, Minnesota, & Massachusetts.

Ron & Mini Me Paul's solution to this problem?
Those infants and kids should make "GOOD DECISIONS!"


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Ron & Mini Me Paul's solution to this problem?
Those infants and kids should make "GOOD DECISIONS!"


No their parents should make good decisions since their infants and children are their responsibility. Although growing up in one of those households will be a learning experience later on for them, they will learn from their parents mistakes hopefully. The system now in place is that they will not learn, they will see that their parents didn't try to fix a problem but relied on others to pay for them. You talk about the importance of education but the real education needs to be learned from home. Would you think it was ok if at a spelling bee they allowed a kid to advance because he was close enough in spelling a word, no you wouldn't. You would hope to see him get eliminated and hope he will learn the correct spelling for later on.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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By your own standards, being allowed to fail should be a learning experience, if you failed at running your store you will learn from your mistakes and improve later on. If you drunk a case of beer and woke up the next morning and felt like you were going to die you will learn to drink less. You don't need the government to regulate your actions, your actions will regulate themselves through experience and learning.


This was already tried during the 60-70's hippie, lsd,pot etc, love fest era......is this country going to circle this airport AGAIN??





When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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No their parents should make good decisions since their infants and children are their responsibility. Although growing up in one of those households will be a learning experience later on for them, they will learn from their parents mistakes hopefully. The system now in place is that they will not learn, they will see that their parents didn't try to fix a problem but relied on others to pay for them. You talk about the importance of education but the real education needs to be learned from home. Would you think it was ok if at a spelling bee they allowed a kid to advance because he was close enough in spelling a word, no you wouldn't. You would hope to see him get eliminated and hope he will learn the correct spelling for later on.


Yes, those who survive will learn from their PARENTS MISTAKES.

Um... what mistake did the guy who comes down with MS make???
His insurance maxes out and his kids are malnourished.  As the post pointed out:
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Good nutrition, particularly in the first three years of life, is important in establishing
a good foundation that has implications for a child’s future physical and mental health, academic
achievement, and economic

productivity.


What mistake did the 40 year old self employed cancer patient make???
He's been out of work for 4 years battling cancer, his business has folded, and he has no health
insurance, with over 300,000 in hospital and doctor bills?
Did he make the mistake of GETTING CANCER???  What mistake did his wife and kids make???
Did his wife make the mistake of sticking with her husband through his cancer?
Did his kids make the mistake of being born to a guy who develops cancer?
Do his kids quit high school to help pay his dads bills?
Do his kids forget about college because they made the mistake of being born to a Cancer
Patient Dad???

Ron Paul's America is full of "I Got Mine... Screw You!!!"


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Ron Paul's America is full of "I Got Mine... Screw You!!!"


Wrong again, Ron Paul's America is about helping, its not about stealing in order to help or forcing one to help at the barrel of a gun. If you think humanity is that screwed that you must force people to help then we failed already.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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This was already tried during the 60-70's hippie, lsd,pot etc, love fest era......is this country going to circle this airport AGAIN??



Its about responsibility, do you need the government to regulate your habits or can you manage without the government telling you what is right or wrong. I'm guessing like me you did some stupid things in your life and you learned by your mistakes did you not, you learned because you failed or because your actions had consequences, you either learned not to do it again or learned how to do it right.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Wrong again, Ron Paul's America is about helping, its not about stealing in order to help or forcing one to help at the barrel of a gun. If you think humanity is that screwed that you must force people to help then we failed already.


Ron Paul: The Feds Should Have No Role In Disaster Relief

Ron Paul, whose home district has seen its share of hurricane-related disasters over the years, said
after a campaign appearance today that he didn’t believe that there should be a role for the Federal
Government in disaster relief at all:
“We should be like 1900; we should be like 1940, 1950, 1960,” Paul said.

"I Got Mine... Screw You!"

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What’s more, voluntary coordination among states is a recipe for one outcome: failure.
Cash-strapped states barely have the resources for schools and law enforcement; the notion that
they’ll be able to prepare and respond to a natural disaster, and rebuild in its wake, without any
federal role whatsoever, is ridiculous.

If Mississippi, which is not at all a wealthy state, gets hits by a hurricane, will it have the financial
wherewithal to provide for the affected areas? For that matter, would Mississippi, Alabama,
and Louisiana — none of which is wealthy — be able to effectively put together a “voluntary
coordination” plan in the event of a natural disaster?

As Jay Bookman explained a few months ago, “A state suffering destruction on such a scale
cannot be told to suck it up and pull itself up by its own bootstraps. After all, it is moments
such as these that put the ‘United’ in the United States. We are not self-contained human
units each out to maximize individual wealth and consumption; we are Americans, and we help
each other out.”

On the list of things Americans can and should expect from the federal government,
“disaster relief” should be one of the few responsibilities that the left and right can endorse
enthusiastically. It’s something people can’t do for themselves; it’s something states can’t
afford to do; and struggling communities can’t wait for the invisible hand of the free market
to lift them up, especially since it’s a market private enterprise isn’t eager to enter.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Ron Paul: The Feds Should Have No Role In Disaster Relief



So again you think it is the governments job to FORCE people to help because of others bad decisions. If you move to tornado valley I should be forced to help when your house gets wiped out by a tornado, that is what you are saying. Hey box I made a bad investment, can I have your money to try again, I take cash or checks. Come on box don't you want to help me with my bad decision, all I need is like $20,000.


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So again you think it is the governments job to FORCE people to help because of others bad decisions. If you move to tornado valley I should be forced to help when your house gets wiped out by a tornado, that is what you are saying. Hey box I made a bad investment, can I have your money to try again, I take cash or checks. Come on box don't you want to help me with my bad decision, all I need is like $20,000.


See... just as I posted  
I GOT MINE... SCREW YOU!

If it doesn't impact Henry personally... Screw EM!

Of course had that storm in the Rotterdam area yesterday turned into a tornado and wiped out
Henry's home, his roads, his place of employment, his bridges, his electric and gas service, his
schools, his food supply his fire and police protection...
His hospital gone in the storm and poor Henry has a broken leg... To Bad Henry... You should have made
good decisions!!!

We could all look at Henry and Laugh!

"HA HA HA Henry... why didn't you make "good decisions"!"

Um... Don't bother looking for welfare, food stamps or unemployment benefits...
Ron Paul would look at you as a TAKER!  A USER!  A DRAIN ON SOCIETY!

No job, no home, no place to sleep, no food, and no way to get any of these...
"FREEDOM!!!"



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The Paul family way back with President Reagan ; )
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