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A Better Day than Memorial Day

TO ALL - Support The People Who Get Out Of A Warm Bed To Go Out In The Cold To Earn A Living And Get Taxed In The Process In Order To Provide The Resources For The Troops To Do Whatever It Is The Troops Are Ordered To Do Without Asking Why Or If It's Even In The Country's Best Interest To Do It Day.

"Why aren't the troops giving up their seats on planes and trains for them?"


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A Better Day than Memorial Day

TO ALL - Support The People Who Get Out Of A Warm Bed To Go Out In The Cold To Earn A Living And Get Taxed In The Process In Order To Provide The Resources For The Troops To Do Whatever It Is The Troops Are Ordered To Do Without Asking Why Or If It's Even In The Country's Best Interest To Do It Day.

"Why aren't the troops giving up their seats on planes and trains for them?"


A great view into Cicero's selfish world... He thinks that those who put their lives on the line
should honor him JUST BECAUSE HE GETS UP IN THE MORNING AND GOES TO WORK!

Cic doesn't get it and I doubt that he ever will.  
Happy Memorial Day Cicero.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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what I want to understand is that those who denounce patriotism .....what the hell are you doing here?????????????....
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what I want to understand is that those who denounce patriotism .....what the hell are you doing here?????????????....


Patriotism isn't unconditional.  Uncondition patriotism leads to unchallenged atricities.  

When you and your family live in a nation for generations, you do all you can to correct the country you live in.  Leaving is not an easy task.  We live in a land rich with resources controlled by a handful of people.  Those handful of people want to control the resources of other nations.  People will not put up with it forever.  That is the genisus of terrorism.

Patriotism in the name of conquering resources and suppressing the self determination of foreign people is not patriotism.  If that were true, the German people that supported Hitler are the most patriotic the world has seen in 100 years.  Until now.


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what I want to understand is that those who denounce patriotism .....what the hell are you doing here?????????????....


Patriotism for Cicero extends to a day off from work.  Other than that... He's all HATE!

Hates the military, hates the police, hates our government, and won't even bother to vote to improve
the system.
If it doesn't benefit him personally... he's against it.





The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Patriotism for Cicero extends to a day off from work.  Other than that... He's all HATE!

Hates the military, hates the police, hates our government, and won't even bother to vote to improve
the system.
If it doesn't benefit him personally... he's against it.



Can you be patriotic toward humanity?  

Talk about hate, you are memorializing people trained to hate a predetermined foreign enemy.  And in recent history, their enemy did nothing offensive toward the United States.(unless you count controlling their own resources and monetary system)

And please don't use 19 hijackers that took over a plane with box cutters to justify the slaughter of upward of one hundred thousand innocent people.  None of which were Saudi's which the hijackers were.


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Memorial Day THIS

David Swanson
War Is Crime
Mon, 27 May 2013 04:53 CDT

Imagine if at some point during the 1990s or 1980s the President of the United States had given a speech. And this was his speech:

My fellow Americans, I've been regularly shooting missiles into people's houses in several countries. I've wiped out families. I've killed thousands of people. Hundreds of them have been little children.

I've killed grandparents, wives, daughters, neighbors. I've targeted people without knowing their names but because they appeared to be resisting an occupation of their country. I've killed whoever was too near them.
Then I've shot another missile a few minutes later to kill whoever was trying to help the victims.

I don't charge these people with crimes. I don't seek their extradition. I don't even try to kidnap them. And I don't do this to defend against any imminent threat. I don't make you safer by doing this. It goes without saying (although the people in the countries I target keep saying it) that I'm generating more new enemies than I'm killing. But I urge you to remember this: All but four of the people I've killed have been non-U.S. citizens.


So here's what I'm going to do for you: I'm going to start applying the same standards I use for killing U.S. citizens to my killing of non-U.S. citizens, at least in certain countries, at least after another 18 months or so goes by. Sound good? I know, I know: what do you care? These are not even U.S. citizens we're talking about.

So, let me tell you about the four U.S. citizens.

One of them we didn't actually know who we were shooting at, and he turned out to be a U.S. citizen. Hell, for all I know a few other bodies could belong to U.S. citizens too -- It's not as if we know all the names and backgrounds.

A second one of the four we got because he was with the one and only U.S. citizen we targeted. So, that was a two-fer. We saved enough on missiles on that one to pay for a school or whatever it is people keep whining about wanting money for.

A third one was a 16-year-old American kid. He was the son of the one and only U.S. citizen I targeted. I hit him two weeks after killing his father. Sheer coincidence. I don't have any good explanation for it, but you'll just have to trust that I meant to take out a bunch of innocent non-American teenagers, and there happened tragically to be an American among them.

Fourth is the one U.S. citizen I meant to kill. I'd like to ask you to ignore certain facts about this one for the moment. Actually forever. Let's ignore the fact that we tried to kill him before any of the incidents that I now claim justified his killing. Let's ignore that my attorney general said back then that we were killing him for things he'd said, not for anything he'd done. Let's forget that we never charged him with any crime, never indicted him, never tried him, never sought his extradition, never appealed to U.S. or foreign or international courts. Let's forget that we've never made any evidence against him public, nor explained why we can't. Let's forget that nobody else has produced any evidence against him.

Now, let me tell you this: I only killed him because he was responsible for planning and executing violent attacks on the United States, was an imminent threat to the United States, and could not possibly have been captured. Got that? Write that down.

Now, it's true that courts and the legislature and the public are left out of this. But you're going to have to trust me.

There is not a single domestic or international law that permits the killing of human beings by someone who invents criteria for himself to meet and then claims on the basis of secret evidence to have met those criteria.

But, what do you care? You've already forgotten that for all but one of the people I've killed I don't claim to have met any criteria at all.

Now clap, you morons!


http://www.sott.net/article/262142-Memorial-Day-THIS...


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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what I want to understand is that those who denounce patriotism .....what the hell are you doing here?????????????....


Fake a ss patriotism that honors killing and creating enemies is not real patriotism.

Are you the modern day love it or leave it person?

Support murder or you are the enemy.

The US terrorizes the world so you can sleep well.

People that want others to die so they can feel safe are not patriots.

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patriotism has a religious connotation to it

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Definition of PATRIOTISM

: love for or devotion to one's country
See patriotism defined for English-language learners »
See patriotism defined for kids »
Examples of PATRIOTISM

You may not agree with him politically, but no one can question his patriotism.
They supported the war with a fierce patriotism.
First Known Use of PATRIOTISM

circa 1726
Related to PATRIOTISM

Synonyms
nationalism
Related Words
chauvinism; jingoism; allegiance, constancy, devotion, faithfulness, fealty, loyalty, staunchness, steadfastness; fervency, fervidness, passion


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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