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Box A Rox
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"Rich people don't create jobs"



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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How many poor people own companies that employ a lot of people?
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How many poor people own companies that employ a lot of people?


OK Shadow... you have to watch the video again... He explained it, but you must have been in the
kitchen for popcorn instead of paying attention.





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I did watch the video and the half truths in it are obvious. When the demand for a product is greater than the business can supply the company hires more people. When a company hires people to make a product that nobody wants you have Solyndra and those companies don't last unless the government bails them out. What company do you want to work for?
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I did watch the video and the half truths in it are obvious. When the demand for a product is greater than the business can supply the company hires more people. When a company hires people to make a product that nobody wants you have Solyndra and those companies don't last unless the government bails them out. What company do you want to work for?


I worked for a company who sold products that we produced... We sold those products to everyone,
rich and poor alike.  We sold hundreds of millions of those products... there aren't hundreds of millions
of millionaires to buy our products... but there are hundreds of millions of middle class working people
who did buy.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I didn't catch the names of those companies started by poor people.
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I didn't catch the names of those companies started by poor people.


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You miss the point, of course.

If you sell coffee makers, rich people will buy one or maybe two or three. You may sell 9 million
of them to rich people.
If you sell coffee makers, poor or middle class people will buy one, and you will sell 300 million of them.

See the difference???  Again... watch the video.


As for your question... Companies started by poor people...
~ Sheldon Adelson, owner of The Venetian hotel in Las Vegas, was the son of Ukrainian immigrants
and grew up in the poor Dorchester neighborhood in Boston.
Worth $21.5 Billion

~ John Paul DeJoria, cofounder of John Paul Mitchell Systems.  Sold Christmas cards and newspapers
to support his family at age nine. Despite his contributions, his family was unable to make ends
meet and he was sent to live with foster parents.  DeJoria spent much of his youth in a street
gang in East Los Angeles.   He became homeless, worked as a janitor and collected bottles and
pumped gas to stay alive.
Today his company has annual revenues exceeding $900 million.
Worth $4 Billion

~ Oprah Winfrey.  The daughter of an unwed teenage mother from rural Mississippi, Oprah
Winfrey conquered poverty, sexual abuse and her own teenage pregnancy to become a
media mogul.
Worth $2.7 billion

Howard Schultz.   Howard grew up in Brooklyn, New York in the Canarsie Bayview Housing
Projects, the son of a truck driver.  He is the founder of Starbucks Corporation.
Worth  $1.1 billion

How many more "names of those companies started by poor people" do you need?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Nice try box they made something of themselves, how many businesses today are run by poor people, how many jobs is your neighborhood bum or welfare momma hiring. What you copy and pasted is FORMER poor people who are now RICH people creating jobs, you pretty much just killed your own argument.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Nice try box they made something of themselves, how many businesses today are run by poor people, how many jobs is your neighborhood bum or welfare momma hiring. What you copy and pasted is FORMER poor people who are now RICH people creating jobs, you pretty much just killed your own argument.


All the rich people owned businesses in your community... Who pays their bills?  Price Chopper is a
successful business... Do Millionaires spend hundreds of millions of dollars there? Or, Do millions of
middle class & poor spend their dollars there?

If only millionaires shoppted at Price Chopper, even if each millionaire spent double the cost of
the groceries, PC would go out of business in a month.
If the number of millionaires doubled in a neighborhood Price Chopper... HOW MANY MORE
JOBS WOLD PC FILL?  
If the number of middle class doubled in a neighborhood Price Chopper...The number of jobs
at that store would likely almost double.




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All the rich people owned businesses in your community... Who pays their bills?  Price Chopper is a
successful business... Do Millionaires spend hundreds of millions of dollars there? Or, Do millions of
middle class & poor spend their dollars there?

If only millionaires shoppted at Price Chopper, even if each millionaire spent double the cost of
the groceries, PC would go out of business in a month.
If the number of millionaires doubled in a neighborhood Price Chopper... HOW MANY MORE
JOBS WOLD PC FILL?  
If the number of middle class doubled in a neighborhood Price Chopper...The number of jobs
at that store would likely almost double.




Businesses stay in business because they offer a product or service people want while offering jobs that the people are willing to take, if the people don't like their jobs they can quit, if they don't like the prices or products they can shop somewhere else. You're blaming companies for being successful and those who created it for becoming rich, that is the American dream but you have a problem with it.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Businesses stay in business because they offer a product or service people want while offering jobs that the people are willing to take, if the people don't like their jobs they can quit, if they don't like the prices or products they can shop somewhere else. You're blaming companies for being successful and those who created it for becoming rich, that is the American dream but you have a problem with it.


BLAME??? I blamed no one except the douchebags who think that Rich People Create Jobs.
A rich man with an extra $1million in the bank creates very few jobs.... Only those few from his investments.

A thousand poor/middle class people given an extra $100,000 would buy new homes, new cars, remodel
their homes, buy a summer camp, a boat, new furniture, invest, and dine out much more often...
all creating JOBS.

An added bonus... the middle class/poor would actually PAY THEIR TAXES!


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How many middle class people have hit the lottery for millions and in a few years are broke. The government has been giving money to the poor for decades and they're still poor and have no ambition to go out and get a job. They use the money for booze, drugs, food, and fun. The culture of the people has to be changed or we'll always have poor. It's the old give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, teach him to fish and he can feed himself for life.
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BLAME??? I blamed no one except the douchebags who think that Rich People Create Jobs.
A rich man with an extra $1million in the bank creates very few jobs.... Only those few from his investments.

A thousand poor/middle class people given an extra $100,000 would buy new homes, new cars, remodel
their homes, buy a summer camp, a boat, new furniture, invest, and dine out much more often...
all creating JOBS.

An added bonus... the middle class/poor would actually PAY THEIR TAXES!


And how would they get that $100,000, either they hit the lottery or they would have to work for someone who could afford to pay an employee $100,000, those who can afford to pay those salaries are well.... rich. Like my other post Walmarts employs over 2 million people, they do that by providing a service people want, if they couldn't do that they would fail.


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How many middle class people have hit the lottery for millions and in a few years are broke. The government has been giving money to the poor for decades and they're still poor and have no ambition to go out and get a job. They use the money for booze, drugs, food, and fun. The culture of the people has to be changed or we'll always have poor. It's the old give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, teach him to fish and he can feed himself for life.


A good example.  Some poor slob wins the lotto for a million... he pays his $300,000 taxes.
Millionaire hits the lotto for a million.  He pays his tax lawyer an extra $10,000, pays an extra
$10,000 taxes as he hides most of it offshore.
Rich guy screws America, poor smuck pays his taxes.

Poor slob spends his entire fortune on babes, booze, bling, drugs, cars, fine hotels and fancy meals.
The poor slob is broke but hundreds of people were employed by that million dollars.
Rich guy takes his tax free million to the Caymen Islands and it sits there growing but not paying taxes.
Rich guy screws America, poor smuck spends his money in the US creating jobs.

The poor slob buys nothing but illegal drugs with his million (after he pays his taxes).
That million in drugs buys a Corvette, a Lamborghini, and a Limo... pays for the entire year of the
cost for three high priced hookers clothing, hair, makeup, nails, shoes, perfume, etc etc etc.
That million that went to the drug dealer buys a fancy home a new wardrobe for his wife, a fancy
expensive anniversary ring for his wife, and puts his kid through college.
Even when spent on illegal drugs that eventually kills the lotto winner, the entire community benefits
with jobs in the community.
The Rich guy druggy buys his hard drugs directly from Colombia and Afghanistan.  No US jobs...
Rich guy screws America, poor druggie dies spending his money in the US creating jobs.

Yea... if the poor and middle class are prosperous, we all gain, even the richest Americans.
If the Rich are prosperous, the rest of us gain very little.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Yea... if the poor and middle class are prosperous, we all gain, even the richest Americans.
If the Rich are prosperous, the rest of us gain very little.


Oh...Then you would support the "rich guy" taking his business and going over seas?  It will then be a paradise for the middle and lower class.


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